Harmonic mixing? has any of you ever used it? examples?

[tbseferoglu]

im curious about the topic of harmonic mixing

utiliing 'mixed in key' software vs dj software that tells you (guesses?) the key of a song

iv never found a need for it myself, but out of curiosity any of you ever used it? and can you show examples of how it can be beneficial?

HEY!
Playing guitar or piano even mixing songs depends on chords.İmagine yourself in a bar listening metal music.İf solo come in by 4 pitches down you will notice,then go crazy with bleeding ears.İn Electronic music its same.Maybe drunk/stoned crowd can not able to notice that but good audience would notice everytime.But keep it simple ı have a trick.You can pass 2 steps maximum when you're passing in same key like 4A to 5/6A or 7B to 6/5B.When you wanna change the main key you can only pass in 1 direction like 1A to 1B or 7B to 7A.İts all about Harmony.Do it You will get what ı mean.
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[Dubflakes]

It's obviously not necessary considering about 99% of vinyl mixes aren't in tune. Even if two records are in the same key, by the time you match the BPM on the two tracks they aren't in key anymore.
So yeah, If you are safely mixing outros to intros, percussion, jump cuts or minimal styles together, it's not necessary. If you are mixing vocals, instrumentals and melodies, doing mash ups or remixing on the fly it's going to help greatly. We all know how shitty something sounds when it's out of tune, so it's probably something you want to avoid.

I generally balance my sets between tracks that define the narrative I want to establish and harmonic mixing to establish flow. So it'll be a deep funky cut and I'll harmonically mix a few tracks to establish that vibe, if it's working on the floor I'll continue to sort of work within that realm. If my set needs more energy I'll pull out a track (regardless of key) to sort of pick things up and then vibe out with that for a few tracks before changing it up again, if necessary.

If you want a sample of it here is a little tid bit I took from one of my mixes.
Sorry if you don't like house/Disco, but you should be able to get the jist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jDW_F6uSgg

[Alex Murphy]

I use harmonic mixing a lot, and shifting keys. Just listen to my mixes below (SPAM™) for plenty of that. The benefit is the flow without harmonies or pitches clashing.

[D'jramatist]

I have all my vinyl marked with BPM and key. I then sort it by format - type (Rock/ House/ Techno/ Soul) - genre - Key.

So when i select stuff I can select the next record by key. Can do it on Traktor as well.

It becomses second nature after a while - though if you are playing out with only say a box of vinyl your choices do become limited.

[MarkmaN]

I think harmonic mixing benefits many styles of mixing but not all equally. Trance, progressive, and some melodic styles of house all have melodies that can clash if key is ignored during blends. Harder techno or even some bass music may have more sparse melodies that don't draw as much attention to differences between the tracks. If you play a style where you have noticed that sometimes the blends feel a little off in how the notes fit together, this may be the missing piece of the puzzle. Long before mixed in key, we would figure out the key in a piano and write it on the sleeve of tracks. We'd use this as a guide to play songs that could fit together more naturally because of this musical relationship. Now in the digital age, I can organize by key when I want to do long mixes that would benefit from the melodies fitting together more naturally.

Hope this helps.

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[KLH]

IMHO harmonic mixing is best on long blends with the outgoing track having music playing. With long blends, the opportunity for music clashing is higher than short transitions.

What I don't like about harmonic mixing is that I feel constrained by the tracks I "should" play regardless of transition style.

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[Tha Rule]

Since i'm a digital DJ mixing in key is really easy because of track analysis. I tend not to rely on it too much as you can always play with the key distances,. But usually I try to get it right,.. It just sounds better when you do.