busts and how they affect the scene

[ben mills]

This is what happens when you try to bring drugs to an event. Do that shit somewhere else or suffer the consequences

Just curious...are you with law enforcement?

[Finnish_Fox]

$2500 and is a bit thin though? It's not like they busted some kingpin or something

Don't need to... they see a few hundred kids smoking joints, probable cause is set.

Ben Mills brought up some interesting material stating that probable cause is not established just because someone is near illegal activity.

[ben mills]

Even if Terry vs. Ohio established the constitutionality of frisking, I think you would still be protected unless the officer had a valid reason to be suspicious of you, individually from the masses, beyond simply attending the event.

[Finnish_Fox]

Even if Terry vs. Ohio established the constitutionality of frisking, I think you would still be protected unless the officer had a valid reason to be suspicious of you, individually from the masses, beyond simply attending the event.

Thought about that after posting - the ruling in Terry sets that there is still a reason for suspicion to exist and, given the citations you provided, assembling in a public place within proximity to illegal activity is not probably cause.

HOWEVER... this was not in public, but private land on which a warrant was served. IMO, this sounds more like being at your drug dealer's house when he is raided and being searched then and there despite the cops not having a specific warrant to search you.

(The DEA just did it in San Diego and detained a UCSD student who was at his drug dealers house when they raided it. They took him in and left him in a holding cell for like 5 days.)

[LALaw]

I didn't realize there were so many lawyers on the forums

[ben mills]

I stated I am not...but that doesn't mean I can't read case law and interpret it to the best of my ability. Nor does being on a DJ forum mean I am an uneducated kid.

Are you a lawyer, or affiliated with law enforcement? I would be interested to hear either perspective.

[starryphoenix]

well, there was a lot of talk this weekend, but we hear this is fully legal under the laws of the state of Virginia. and we do have some screwy laws

[Finnish_Fox]

well, there was a lot of talk this weekend, but we hear this is fully legal under the laws of the state of Virginia. and we do have some screwy laws

This seem like it would have been a pretty big oversight if it weren't legal/to protocol - sure it happens, but its rare.

[frandomeda]

4 miles away from correctional facility... bravo. just bravo

[disparate]

Just curious...are you with law enforcement?

Doubt it with that lack of knowledge. Shitloads of drugs get brought into festivals, clubs and concerts every day without anyone "suffering the consequences"