haha i was wondering when this topic would crop up, the difference between us(britain) and over the pond is that we have managed to keep the commercial stuff in the rough clubs(places where scallies and slappers go to) and the shit cheesy bars like yates' etc, leaving proper dance events to enjoy the good dj's we are used to. america has been unfortunate that this mainstream(or top40 as you lot call it) has become the real dance events, our massive festivals tend not to allow the real commercial stuff to take centre stage, the main stage at say creamfields is reserved for the likes of norman cook, daft punk etc. although i did stop going to global gathering because they booked kanye west one year, my feelings being that like all good things radio1 got involved and fucked everything up by commercialising it(i dont need ferne cotton and vernon the dickhead kay shouting from the rooftops about how 'bangin' somewhere is). things should just be left alone by tv and radio so we can enjoy them for what they are meant to be, ive yet to hear a radio dj, tv presenter say 'oh wow did you see how amazing (insert name here) was a the weekend' and the name inserted be anybody actually any good. its normally oh calvin harris rocked it or tiesto was bangin... i think i would pass out if one of them went on a rant about how good carl craig and doc martin were
p.s. the sooner there is a new 'thing' to go to the better, i dont like the way dance music is going, the trend seems to be centred on who can make the most fucked up noise, or how much vocoder can we apply to a rhianna vocal. with the end result being loads and loads of similar sounding, fairly poorly produced tracks that loads of people just mix together one after the other then class themselves as a dj.
i often have a listen to some of the 'top40/electro/dubstep/EDM latest mix leave feedback' mixes on the submissions thread and all that i seem to hear is someone trying to drop banger after banger, it rarely flows very well, if mixed with much skill at all. and on top of that dance music was never about playing the latest bunch of tracks or trying to blow everyone into oblivion with every record, its about having a start and finishing point and building a set to suit, ie start the set with the more subtle tracks and build into the big room stuff then possibly wind back down ending with a couple of well known/classic tracks towards the end, some kind of journey, not just a full on smash fest
Originally Posted by Boomcie
I know right, these people dont appreciate anything!
I didnt even think it was possible for America the Great to ruin anything, we just makes it better.
Hip-Hop>EDM...but were working on EDM, dont worry.
If we're lucky America will completely kill dubstep, and EDM can finally get over the wobble obsession and resume focus on actually writing music instead of relying on gimmicks
Last edited by thehadgi; 06-15-2012 at 09:18 AM.
Originally Posted by DJ Kaveman
Yeah I gave up on the mix submissions section back on DJF1.0, same old "bangers" electro-top-40 mixes. And I agree with what you said about bad dance music mostly being relegated to the meat-market pop clubs/rougher places, it's true in most UK cities that have an established underground scene.
Originally Posted by DJ STU-C
I don't think mainstream EDM is "killing" quality dance music, they mostly exist in isolation to each other until you get people confusing the two and thinking you're into David Guetta when you say you're a house music fan
my skin is crawling, almost as much as when you tell people you like to dj and they start asking if you have a mic and shout check one two
Originally Posted by disparate
It gets harder and harder to be a true EDM fan in America....
This is stupid. Mainstream likes easily digestible things. The EDM artists that are breaking into the mainstream know this and are catering to their audience. The more artists do it, the faster that a saturation point occurs which causes a backlash. The question is if there is a greater cultural movement that prevents the backlash from killing the music. Disco didn't survive. Rock & Roll and Hip-Hop did. Techno and Trance (almost did... but) didn't survive. Electro House and Dub Step are being tested now...
Place your bets.
to be fair KLH disco didnt 'not' survive, it just migrated into 80s groove then house music, kind of a progression. hip hop is hip hop so it will always be around, luckily this dance/hip hop crossover shit thats kicking about now is not taking over from hip hop its just another genre, imagine if it was its replacement, how bad would that be