Denon SC-2900 is Official

[DJ Highline]

I Think im going to get these over pioneer as im mostly a bedroom DJ, these will save me money but give me lotso features . When i play bars etc i bring my own gear so i think these will be awesome.

Anyone know when they come to Canada or at least the States?

Supposedly October

It still looks cheap :/

I better go find a store that has it on display!

What are you kidding me...what looks cheap about them?

[Ryan Verkley]

I think they look awesome! Every feature i want for much cheaper than pio. Imagine if clubs had 2 2900's and 2 3900's all linked together to play off one source they would cater DJ's who like the CDJ feel and DJ's who like the Vinyl feel. I think it's very smart of Denon even if they don't catch on it's an impressive product line.

Im planning on getting these and an Ipad with a stand instead of a laptop. Then prolly a x1600 mixer to go with it.

[Scott Michael]

I think they look awesome! Every feature i want for much cheaper than pio. Imagine if clubs had 2 2900's and 2 3900's all linked together to play off one source they would cater DJ's who like the CDJ feel and DJ's who like the Vinyl feel. I think it's very smart of Denon even if they don't catch on it's an impressive product line.

Im planning on getting these and an Ipad with a stand instead of a laptop. Then prolly a x1600 mixer to go with it.

Pioneer should definitely look at being able to link "2,3, or 4" controllers/cdjs together, that is one novel idea...... Isn't the whole point of CDJ type players to ditch the laptop? If the screen/browser functions are adequate there should be no need to bring a ipad/computer with. Maybe I'm just a Pioneer fanboy but I truly don't see anything great about these controllers/cdjs, besides the price.

[Irrational_Fear]

Pioneer should definitely look at being able to link "2,3, or 4" controllers/cdjs together, that is one novel idea...... Isn't the whole point of CDJ type players to ditch the laptop? If the screen/browser functions are adequate there should be no need to bring a ipad/computer with. Maybe I'm just a Pioneer fanboy but I truly don't see anything great about these controllers/cdjs, besides the price.

The Pioneer CDJ900s & 2000s can be linked up to 4 units. I use my 900s linked so I only need one usb drive with music plugged into a single player. Also, a taglist created on one player will show up on all the players linked to it- I find this extremely useful- the link feature was one of the reasons that made me get the 900s over the 850s.

I have to say, based purely on the features they offer, I will certainly be checking them out when they reach stores- I could definately 'consider' trading in my CDJ900s for a pair. I've absolutely loved all the Denon stuff I've tried- it was only the lack of future firmware support and a slight preference for a jogwheel layout that stopped me from getting a pair of 3700s before I bought my CDJ900s. I think the only sticking point might be the screen, I wouldn't want to have to hook up a laptop/iPad to get a decent info display/browse function- the screen on the 900 is more than adequate for this.

I can sort of understand the comments on it looking a bit cheap, but then personally I think the only CD decks I've tried from the last few years that didn't look cheap are the Pioneer CDJ1000s and the Denon 3700s. The CDJ900s & 2000s are just a hive of plastic, and suprisingly lightweight, but I don't hold it against them- they are still awesome to use!

[swine]

Supposedly October



What are you kidding me...what looks cheap about them?

NO I'm not kidding you. Those big rubber buttons look cheap. And the glowing blue/red LED platter makes it look cheap too.

I just hate the rubber denon buttons.. sorry... I had one of their cdjs and thought the same thing the entire time i was using it

[Scott Michael]

The Pioneer CDJ900s & 2000s can be linked up to 4 units. I use my 900s linked so I only need one usb drive with music plugged into a single player. Also, a taglist created on one player will show up on all the players linked to it- I find this extremely useful- the link feature was one of the reasons that made me get the 900s over the 850s.

I was being sarcastic.... with my comment. These players will target a certain market of dj but it will not "take over" as the industry standard or "knock on the door" on the door of Pioneer. There is a reason Pioneer CDJ's are industry standard and its not just due to big names requesting them.

[Ryan Verkley]

I agree they will not take over in clubs, and they failed on marketing them that way. But for someone living in canada the cdj-900's are $1400 after tax each. If these come in around $899 that's $1000 cheaper for the pair, which is huge for decks that have pretty much the same features. I have no doubt they will be good quality as denon is a great company and produces quality gear. The ipad is optional and the screen isn't much different than the cdj-850 in that price range so i still think the ipad option is a plus, especially if you already have one. Im sure if pioneer had this ipad feature on the 900's it would be this great feature people loved, so i dont see why people make this feature seem like a detriment on the Denons.

I do think denon should make a more expensive model with a nice screen and maybe dual soundcards again so you can use them as 2 decks each.

[Irrational_Fear]

I was being sarcastic.... with my comment. These players will target a certain market of dj but it will not "take over" as the industry standard or "knock on the door" on the door of Pioneer. There is a reason Pioneer CDJ's are industry standard and its not just due to big names requesting them.

Ah I missed that- it was late when I was typing it in my defence!

And yes, totally agree on other points. If the SC2900 gives those people who arn't too fussed about 'club standard' stuff a significantly cheaper, but still extremely capable alternative, it can only be a good thing in my opinion.

[DJ Highline]

NO I'm not kidding you. Those big rubber buttons look cheap. And the glowing blue/red LED platter makes it look cheap too.

I just hate the rubber denon buttons.. sorry... I had one of their cdjs and thought the same thing the entire time i was using it

If you get your head out of Pioneer's ass and actually read, they changed the cue and play buttons from the traditional Denon rubber (which I actually like) to hard plastic like Pioneer's...sorry they're not round too. The "eclipse platter" well that's a personal thing I can see how some would like it and some not. I personally like it and the fact that you can change how it displays information and the color. I just wish they had taken it one step further and added a green LED to make it an RGB ring.

I was being sarcastic.... with my comment. These players will target a certain market of dj but it will not "take over" as the industry standard or "knock on the door" on the door of Pioneer. There is a reason Pioneer CDJ's are industry standard and its not just due to big names requesting them.

I think they are a very significant knock on Pioneer's door. Pioneer hates Denon and Denon hates Pioneer. Trust me, Pioneer is watching this one very closely. I think the major reason that Pioneer has become a club standard are big name DJs requesting them on their riders (and pioneer giving a shit ton of them away which they pass that cost on to its paying customers). If Denon were able to get 20-30% of the big name DJs to start requesting either the SC3900 or SC2900, you would really start to see a shift in the club market place.

I agree they will not take over in clubs, and they failed on marketing them that way. But for someone living in canada the cdj-900's are $1400 after tax each. If these come in around $899 that's $1000 cheaper for the pair, which is huge for decks that have pretty much the same features. I have no doubt they will be good quality as denon is a great company and produces quality gear. The ipad is optional and the screen isn't much different than the cdj-850 in that price range so i still think the ipad option is a plus, especially if you already have one. Im sure if pioneer had this ipad feature on the 900's it would be this great feature people loved, so i dont see why people make this feature seem like a detriment on the Denons.

I do think denon should make a more expensive model with a nice screen and maybe dual soundcards again so you can use them as 2 decks each.

Denon's bread and butter are the mobile and bedroom DJs. But they are starting to push this deck toward the clubs. Their marketing has gotten better overall as well. The new advertising campaign is "the new king of clubs". How they are going to make that happen not sure, but they are in a position where they can make a push if they have a solid game plan. Lets face it, you can install 2 x SC2900, 2 S x SC3900 a DN-X1700, router and I-pad for about the same cost as 2 x CDJ2000 + DJM-900. Throw in an SL box and you can pretty much cater to any DJ walking into your club. (Or hell can you imagine if you put a Rane 68 in instead of the X1700...just saying ) But it only makes sense if people are requesting them. So Denon has to get big names requesting them.

Also I did suggest that Denon should come out with a higher priced deck. Mostly because of perceived value. People have this strange belief that if it cost more it must be better. That is not always the case. But to capitalize on this psychology, I think Denon should introduce a $1500 deck. If they can pretty much step on Pioneer's flagship player with a $850 deck imagine the deck they can produce for $1300- 1500. Plus now they have an elite deck that not everybody and afford...something that is a status symbol...because most people like to measure the penis size by the price of their toys.

[DJ Bob]

I think they are a very significant knock on Pioneer's door. Pioneer hates Denon and Denon hates Pioneer. Trust me, Pioneer is watching this one very closely. I think the major reason that Pioneer has become a club standard are big name DJs requesting them on their riders (and pioneer giving a shit ton of them away which they pass that cost on to its paying customers). If Denon were able to get 20-30% of the big name DJs to start requesting either the SC3900 or SC2900, you would really start to see a shift in the club market place.

they're a knock on the door 2 years too late.
cdj2000s are the club standard because they are currently the best cdj out there. if another manufacturer came along and made something significantly better then DJs would jump ship and adopt the new product no problem. all the top guys want to be using the best equipment.

unfortunately denon have just tried to mimic the functionality of the cdj2000/900 range at a much cheaper price instead of really pushing new innovation at the top end. the biggest failing is the tiny screen in their flagship player.

i expect the next gen players from pioneer (which are rumoured to be announced next week) to raise the bar further.