Ecler Nuo 3 Faders

[bobbyd]

So I have been out of the game for a while, but before I really hung up the headphones, I bought a new (at the time) Ecler Nuo 3. I like the mixer and its set up, but I have realized that I am very dissapointed in the faders. They don't really give any volume till you get to 7 or so - and even then, it is like a 5 on any other mixer. So I end up having to run the faders at 10 always, and adjust with the gain controls.

I am a little old school - I played on a Urei or two in my day - so I got used to relying on the faders for volume and fading control.

There is an adjustment on the front of the mixer for Ch 1&3 faders, but it doesn't do much.

Any thoughts on another table top mixer - 2 or 3 channels - effects sends (don't really care about onboard effects) that has better fader feel? A more consistent volume curve?

The thing is I have only really used this mixer 10 or 12 times over the years I have had it - and I am a little frustrated now that I am trying to lay down a studio mix.

Any suggestions - would probably be more prone to get a used mixer - just for the money factor, but I don't want garbage.

[ampnation]

I also have the Nuo 3 and will 2nd this which for me is a minor frustration.

[Estacy]

with the fader curve knop at about 2o clock, its fairly linear. but you shouldn't try to use this mixer like an Urei. the faders on the nuo 3 are meant to be slammed to the top, using the gain to set the correct volume

[ampnation]

If you're using gain to set correct volume, how do you maintain a proper gain structure to avoid clipping? That seems like a dangerous workaround.

[Estacy]

pretty much what you do is, you set the gain using the pfl meter to whatever level you desire (under 0dB for me) and then bring the faders all the way up, then the volume on the master is at under 0dB as well. just use the eq when mixing in and you can keep it at 0dB the whole mix. It simply works different to rotary mixers that have gain on the potentiometers.
and this Nuo has plenty of 'headroom' you can go quite deep into the red before you really notice the sound degrading, not that you want to, but still.

and with volume i didn't mean overall volume, that's what the master is for of course

[ampnation]

So you've set maximum gain with channel faders all up, gain at zero and with your gain setting signal, adjusted the master out to just below clipping... then rely on your own ability to keep the gains at or below zero for the entire gig?

I much prefer knowing that I can slam the channel faders all the way up and not worry about clipping. Plus, using the gain as a volume control would result in less than optimal sound quality I would think.

[bobbyd]

What companies have a more linear curve on their faders?

[punky]

The Rane TTM56 had really flexible line faders, but they're a lot shorter than the Nuo, as it's a scratch oriented mixer. Though you can mix just fine on it. I like my Korg Zero4's line faders, as the curve control really lets you make them do whatever you want.

[bobbyd]

How is the durability and sound quality on the Korg?

I was really looking for something a little more straight forward - less techy. In hindsight, I kinda wish I would have gotten the Rane empath...

[bobbyd]

Is there any way to replace the line faders with something that has a better curve?