I dumped a bunch of songs into Traktor and had it auto-analyse them. On quite a lot of them, the beat grid is out, so does that mean that the BPM is out as well?
Also, is the beat grid only used if you use auto-sync (beat sync) in Traktor, or is it used for something else? If the answer to my first question is no and the beat grid is only used for auto-syncing, I won't bother fixing it.
Well you can use if for beat-syncing if you want, but it also ties into timed effects also. You can just click on the grid tab to the bottom left of the wave form window and delete the grid and do it manually if you want.
Originally Posted by tails
As long as the BPM is correct, the timed FX will be alright. For me, the easiest way to quickly tell if the BPM is off is by seeing how far off the grid is from a kick or a snare hit and see if the grid drifts a little further in the song (depending on how farr off the BPM is a few secs-25 secs is usually enough). For example, if the gird marker is an ass hair to the left of a snare hit and you scroll thru the song and see it slowly moving a little more to the left, then that means your BPM is slightly off (BPM is set a little faster than it should be in that example). If the BPM is exact but the grid just needs to be shifted, then the grid marker would stay an ass hair to the left of the snare hit all throughout the song.
It depends. If the beatgrid drifts, then the BPM isn't accurate. If the beatgrid was consistently off, then the BPM is likely accurate.
I've found that TP/TSP is fairly accurate with BPM detection, but the placement of the beatgrid is hit-or-miss.
-KLH
For with regards to "DJ music", for House tracks, beatgrids are unusually right on. Anything with a break beat (hip hop, drum'n'bass, electro, breaks) bpm and grids are a wreck. I manually grid and check every dnb and hip hop track that I import into Traktor and will find errors in about 75%, with about 25% being simple things like BPM doubled/halved.
To add to these fine chaps, you can also set multiple "Grid from here" points in a track if you do get some drift on vinyl rips, live recordings and tracks that aren't perfect. For instance you can set a "Grid" cue point at the beginning of a track, or at the point where the beat is most audible and distinguishable, and then again after a break or just a later point in the song. I've found this allows me to have a little more flexibility with tracks that aren't produced "perfect." However, as stated, if the bpm is off then the entire track will not be in sync, no matter how many times you input "Grid" cue points.
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I have to say, the BPMing in Traktor isn't anywhere near as good as it is in Serato. The songs I loaded into it are the same songs I had loaded into SSL for a mix I've been working on. SSL doubled up the BPM of some of the slow songs, but otherwise it was fine. Traktor doubled up way more BPMs and several of them are just way off. Unless I'm not doing it properly, correcting doubled up BPMs is more of a ball ache in Traktor too, as you have to load each track to a deck and press the button to halve the BPM, while in SSL you could select entire groups of tracks and do the lot at once.
That said, I don't really care, haha. All I need from a DVS really is for it to mimic vinyl as closely as possible and Traktor definitely does that.
just use the tap tempo function to determine BPM Sigma. Works great for us dinosaurs that still line up beats with our ears.
do you mean line up the kick beat and the pressing the little button that looks like one of those stand up halogen lamps??
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