Mixing on Breakdowns/Buildups (Switching From A to B and Back to A)

[Julian]

It's something i've been hearing a lot lately.. They beatmatch and phrase match two songs, when Song A is about to hit the breakdown they cut it to Song B, so you get song B's breakdown, but then on the buildup they start adding lots of effects and shit and they eventually go back to Song A but because of all the effects on top of the songs you don't really notice until song A drops again.

It's the effects and the EQ'ing i wanna know about..it's not like super colorful effects that bring the audio all the way up..and that's what i don't get..

I know they use pioneer equipment, and pioneer's effects are different than traktor's but it shouldn't be that much different.

You can hear an example here:

http://www.djmix.com/2012/05/kaskade...t-6-30-2011-lq first transition from Angel in my shoulder(Kaskade?) and Epic, what i'm talking about happens around 3:16..

[Finnish_Fox]

Sounds like just one song to me @ 3:16.

[Luke Ryan]

You have to understand that big name producers such as Kaskade, they all make pre-done edits for festivals and shows like this. What you're hearing is a pre-done edit and the only effect/EQ'ing that it sounds like he's doing live is using the HPF on the build up. All of those other effects sound like they were put into the pre-done edit. Hope this clarifies it for you a little.

[BurntToast]

The song you're referencing is indeed a pre-made mashup by Kaskade. It's called "Angel on My Reaver 76"... it's Kaskade's "Angel on My Shoulder (EDX Remix)" vs. Marco V "Reaver" vs. Tiesto & Hardwell "Zero 76". As Luke Ryan accurately pointed out, a lot of DJs do premade edits. Since it's 3 songs, it would probably be a nightmare to try and do live. You could do something like that live with 2 songs, but it's going to sound a lot less refined.

I used it in this mix I just recorded last Friday:

http://soundcloud.com/kevinm86/june-2012-mix

What you could do is beat match the 2 songs and have your cue points ready. Start Song B's buildup at the same time of Song A's buildup and swap them right at the drop. I'm not saying this is going to sound good. Sometimes it does, but sometimes it can sound a little awkward... like the listener isn't ready for it. If you want to go back to Song A (perhaps even back to Song B again after that), then you'll probably find yourself sprinting to make sure everything comes out right. Mashups and pre-made edits are a good way to get more songs in, and it's way less intense than doing it live. It's not as technical or "cool" as mixing it live, but who cares... they usually sound better.

Billy O'Reilly may disagree...

[Julian]

The song you're referencing is indeed a pre-made mashup by Kaskade. It's called "Angel on My Reaver 76"... it's Kaskade's "Angel on My Shoulder (EDX Remix)" vs. Marco V "Reaver" vs. Tiesto & Hardwell "Zero 76". As Luke Ryan accurately pointed out, a lot of DJs do premade edits. Since it's 3 songs, it would probably be a nightmare to try and do live. You could do something like that live with 2 songs, but it's going to sound a lot less refined.

I used it in this mix I just recorded last Friday:

http://soundcloud.com/kevinm86/june-2012-mix

What you could do is beat match the 2 songs and have your cue points ready. Start Song B's buildup at the same time of Song A's buildup and swap them right at the drop. I'm not saying this is going to sound good. Sometimes it does, but sometimes it can sound a little awkward... like the listener isn't ready for it. If you want to go back to Song A (perhaps even back to Song B again after that), then you'll probably find yourself sprinting to make sure everything comes out right. Mashups and pre-made edits are a good way to get more songs in, and it's way less intense than doing it live. It's not as technical or "cool" as mixing it live, but who cares... they usually sound better.

Billy O'Reilly may disagree...

HAHAHAHAHAHHA! Picture is so funny! But yes, i posted this long time ago, and i've gotten better, found out that this are most likely premade edits since this guys can't take a risk of fucking up infront of a 10,000 people croud. Doesn't mean it can't be done live either.

[DJArmani]

another tip is finding two songs with similar drops and then dropping song 2 after the song 1 buildup, check the mashup i did a while back.

P.S this is one of my first mashups ever, the bass clashes when i try to mix it live so I don't even bother using it though I'd love to.

http://www.mixcrate.com/armani/let-t...belfriss-27664

[de.j.l]

Yup, got to love the mash ups and post edits..

This is one that I did a little bit ago, first ableton mash-up.

http://soundcloud.com/eth-lizee/mash-up

In order for your mash up to sound good, eq'ing is a must, I didn't do much post editing past eq'ing and moving // chopping lyrics.