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    Controller VS Hardware

    I went and bought a Pioneer DJ ssx 3 like an idiot a year ago. For the most part it works well but sometimes it freezes, lights turn off, stops playing.

    I was thinking for the money you spend this would be a good option. But like most of my forays into dj land. Cheaper always bites you in the ass.

    So advice: sell this piece of junk and get two pioneer cdjs? The 1000's are way too expensive so any thoughts as to the xdj 700? They look pretty good and all i really need is to mix. I would have to buy two of these bad boys and also a mixer.

    Now what happens if i move to australia? Do any of you guys know if taking them to a different voltage country would have any problems? I plan to buy in the states.

    Any help would be appreciated?

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    Controller VS Hardware

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartender67 View Post
    I went and bought a Pioneer DJ ssx 3 like an idiot a year ago. For the most part it works well but sometimes it freezes, lights turn off, stops playing.

    I was thinking for the money you spend this would be a good option. But like most of my forays into dj land. Cheaper always bites you in the ass... Any help would be appreciated?
    The Pioneer DDJ-SX3 is NOT a cheap controller. The problem you describe is a known defect with controllers built at one time, and Pioneer will repair it free of charge...

    https://www.pioneerdj.com/en-us/news...on-and-repair/

    My advice; take it in and get it fixed. If you donít LOVE it after that, then you can think about replacing it with something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Bobcat View Post
    The problem you describe is a known defect with controllers built at one time, and Pioneer will repair it free of charge...
    I strongly agree with this as well.

    I had this experience back when the Numark NS7 was first released. Mine worked for a while, then all of a sudden it just stopped working... and the blinky lights happened. I shipped it back to Numark for warranty service and when it came back it was perfect. I loved it.

    Get the repair. The worst case is that you sell a fully functional controller. The best case is that you fall in love with it again.
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    As these guys said, the SX3 has a known problem they'll fix for free.. so that's your answer!
    Once it's working reliably you might like it just fine.

    If you don't like it, you can always try switching software.. the SX3 comes with Serato DJ but I think there's no problem mapping it to work with Rekordbox DJ (Pioneer's version of Serato / Traktor).. you can see if you like that better. It does the similar things, but different.. so I'm not gonna say one is better than the other.

    But if you do feel the urge to go with a stand-alone (no computer just decks and mixer) then that move would be a stepping stone for you because when you are using the XJ-700's or XDJ-1000mk2 decks (the 1000mk2 is what I have), you still will use Rekordbox to organize your tracks before you play them on the decks. Once you've used RB to organize an analyze your tracks then you export them to a thumb drive and play them on the decks. Hence the Pioneer controllers w/ Rekordbox and the Pioneer stand-alone decks work together in a system where you can play on any decks with that same thumb drive once you've prepared it with RB, you can even take your thumb drive an plug it into a friends computer that has RB and a controller (even if it's a different model controller than yours.. as long as he's using RB).. and play as if you were on your own setup.

    So that's how the Pioneer system works w/ Rekordbox. But as you notice, RB is central to it all, it's like the Microsoft Windows of DJing, you have to use it whether you like it or not once you get into the Pioneer decks.

    So if that's your goal is to play on Pioneer decks and not just the controllers, think about making that software switch. But there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with using Serato with the SX3, you can DJ just fine with that setup it's also good software and so as others said, step one is get your controller repaired under the recall for free and then see how you feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartender67 View Post
    I went and bought a Pioneer DJ ssx 3 like an idiot a year ago. For the most part it works well but sometimes it freezes, lights turn off, stops playing.

    I was thinking for the money you spend this would be a good option. But like most of my forays into dj land. Cheaper always bites you in the ass.

    So advice: sell this piece of junk and get two pioneer cdjs? The 1000's are way too expensive so any thoughts as to the xdj 700? They look pretty good and all i really need is to mix. I would have to buy two of these bad boys and also a mixer.

    Now what happens if i move to australia? Do any of you guys know if taking them to a different voltage country would have any problems? I plan to buy in the states. Brazzers Pornhub Xhamster

    Any help would be appreciated?
    I strongly agree with this as well.

    I had this experience back when the Numark NS7 was first released. Mine worked for a while, then all of a sudden it just stopped working... and the blinky lights happened. I shipped it back to Numark for warranty service and when it came back it was perfect. I loved it.

    Get the repair. The worst case is that you sell a fully functional controller. The best case is that you fall in love with it again.
    Last edited by mopakarim9000; 06-27-2019 at 11:35 AM.

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    I had a Hercules DJ Console RMX I bought in 2008 (by today's standards it had a somewhat toy-ish feel to it, small jogwheels, knobs with no center dents etc but other than that the case was brushed aluminium, completely vandal proof) which would freeze and make a loud squeal (from the D/A I guess, I never really looked into it) etc but it did that like a few times, and I had it for like 4 years (I sold it to a friend after getting DVS along with an Akai APC40 which sort of suited my style better but the Hercules was very nifty as you could use it with turntables/CD players too)

    I used it with a Macbook which was a good idea as the laptop lasted from 2008 to 2015 and iirc there were no NI Kontrol S2 or 4 back then, although another friend of mine has one and they're quite solid pieces of kit. For the record I've owned a Kontrol F1 and it was almost indestructible too, although it was pretty confusing as you had to menu dive at times and wouldn't quite know what was going on, so I gave it to the same S2 guy because he somehow seemed to understand the unit better than me.

    But if you want to look professional then I suggest the hardware route; CDJs and (Traktor Scratch Certified/Serato compatible) mixer with an external audio interface via a laptop, at least if one link in the chain goes bad you can replace it whereas with a controller you're replacing the whole unit (they are an emerging technology after all)

    I'm not saying a full-fledged NI Kontrol S2/4 setup with F1's on both sides wouldn't look professional and sleek but you still wouldn't be able to play CDs when needed, and there's the age-old freezing problem around the corner with laptops (or then I'm just paranoid, since I've never had a laptop crash during a show)

    I can't say much about the Numark/Pioneer stuff but I've seen some on display (yet another friend has a Pioneer controller, it was like their flagship model of that time, can't remember which but I never tried it anyway, it looked shiny though)

    There's also the EKS Otus/Otus RAW which was a 2-in-1 controller with a built-in soundcard and it was indeed a very interesting concept, but it's been discontinued (in fact the whole company no longer exists, which is a shame because at one point I was planning on buying one) with some stores still having a few of them in stock according to their websites but I'd figure there wouldn't be any kind of warranty (other than the store one), service or anything..

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