Trance and Dubstep....

[LukeDent]

numero deux in BP trance charts right now.....



nice little bass line on this one....



heatbeat can not do anything wrong right now. love this track.



Bit housey, but its been sold as trance on all good DL stores.



I could post up loads more, but I guess everyone gets the picture now.

Some good stuff tho........

Correct me if I'm wrong but is this tech trance. I get really confused with all these subgenres.

[mostapha]

First, to get this out of the way.

That Shogun track sounds like shit, it sounds more Electro than it does Trance,

Damn straight, that is the worst tune I have heard in years even if you want to call it Trance, Electro or whatever.

Shotgun isnt anything special. Not overly keen on it my self, however I am sure it will grow on me given a few months.

Just like herpes.

And, uhh…god, that song sucks. What were they thinking? It sounds like they watered down the sounds in Brap (Bart B Moore), made a bass line based off of a retarted 12-year-old girl's description of dubstep, and played some trance loops because they couldn't find their dirty dutch folder. It blows.

…anyway…

General opinions on the tracks aside, I think calling them dubstep is pretty tenuous/far fetched. A "dirty synth" with a bit of pitch bending and LFO does not = dubstep. Elements of electro house would be a better description really, I mean I'm barely hearing any half-step rhythms, dub-wise use of space, or whatever else defines dubstep.

You want to hear a good mesh of Trance and Dubstep…listen to Lupe.


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Epic lead…lush pads…ridiculous reverb…half time…strong bass without resorting to an unnecessary wobble…lyrics that sound deep the first time you hear them and get dumber each time until you're having so much fun you just don't care (well…Sway's part, at least). Sounds like Dubstep based on Trance instead of Garage and 2-step to me.

The LFO synched wobble is trite and overused

Plus, it was better in breaks without everything being the same half-time boom bap groove we've been hearing since 1986.

Been a fan a Trance music isn't like been part of an exclusive club. More people been attracted to a genre because its been " watered down " (developed) is only a good thing.…it needs to be taken further to broaden access to Trance.

They did that. Tiesto in Concert, Armin Only, and a few other massive 1-artist performances drew crowds in excess of 150,000. But, no, we need to cry for the poor little trance artists that can't get a following…so they might as well steal elements from the scene that replaced them after it starts to wane instead of getting ahead and trying to be whatever comes next.

The original Trance sound from the mid 90's bears very little resemblance to today sound, so what do you think Trance will sound like in 2022? If it exists at all.....

No idea. But why does it have to change by sounding like something else? Jazz still sounds like Jazz even though Coltrane and Brubeck are long dead. Trance sounding like Electro or Dubstep won't make a new trance…it'll just be more Electro or Dubstep.

I see people talking about trance returning to form these days but I'm still waiting to hear it; generic 2004-style wishy-washy Armada melodic trance with some chainsaw synths thrown in for a bit of contrast isn't quite it.

Agreed. I still maintain there's better stuff that feels like classic trance being released as Techno (or something like it) than anywhere else.

Totally agree with Sedna. I would say most people are brainwashed into thinking the cheese that Armin plays constantly is proper trance, which I dont think it is.

Alot of trance from non-comerical producers just gets lumped under the psy-trance label because of it being more underground.

I'm going to have to start looking at psy. I wrote it off a long time ago as mostly being too fast and chaotic to be something I'd really like, but there have been a few mixes over the years that I've really loved. If that's the case, I'll definitely give it a look. Nothing like making myself even harder to book by adding another genre that I'd like to spin.

I have tried to put my foot in my mouth, and I cant. Also I am not out to convince anyone of anything. I don't expect you to grow and accept the change going on. I am however clearly demonstrating that the top producers are altering their sound significantly.

That doesn't mean it's a good thing. Nor does it mean that what they're making is trance. Someone called it complextro; I'd just call it more electro/dubstep crap. That music has its place, and it can be fun if the place is right. But that place is not in the middle of a trance set.

[DJ Nutty]

You defo need to look again, theres loads of good stuff lumped under psytrance even down at 130 bpm, its not all 145

This for example, why on earth Beatport have it listed under psytrance I dont know, it sounds like proper trance to me, probably just because it has a rolling bassline. 134bpm. Sounds lush.
http://www.beatport.com/track/free-h...al-mix/3286728

[mostapha]

I was slightly disappointed when the preview ended. Yeah…gonna have to listen to some of that.

[DJ Nutty]

here you go


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[Sedna]

Oliver Prime is a fucking mad-man right now. SO GOOD.

Mostapha, check out J00F's "Global Trance Grooves." It's everything you could ever want and more when it comes to modern (true) trance.

[mostapha]

I remember the name j00f from the last time I did trance. So, I'm not surprised.

Damn…I'm going to need a few more days before I can really shop for music, but I think I just a little less promotable. Or I need to make up multiple names for myself or something.

[ChrisHynds]

Not sure if you guys have seen this, I though it was a pretty sick set of videos from JOOF, it old now but hasnt seem to have much viewing -

[ChrisHynds]

this is just part 1 of I think 3 or 4 videos

[Ohmega]

Not sure if you guys have seen this, I though it was a pretty sick set of videos from JOOF, it old now but hasnt seem to have much viewing -

So nice to hear proper Trance without the Armin cheese fest!!!!