Trance and Dubstep....

[soloakadamy]

All I am hearing is troll troll troll.

[Ohmega]

Totally agree with Sedna. I would say most people are brainwashed into thinking the cheese that Armin plays constantly is proper trance, which I dont think it is.

Alot of trance from non-comerical producers just gets lumped under the psy-trance label because of it being more underground.

I 100000000% agree. Armin plays some of the most watered down trance tunes on the planet. I remember trance 20 years ago when Armin was an absolute nobody on the scene and even further in the shadows was Ferry Corsten. Granted Armin has made a zillion bucks by now, but I'm not a fan of his chick-flick tunes. Those songs resonate better with the ladies I feel. Everytime I hear an Armin tunes its 99% of the time the same leads, same pads and the same breakdown structure. Armind is a surface level trance label at best. I guess that can be said for almost anything on the Armada catalog.

However I love EDM so as much as I might bash on Armin I think he has done a lot for opening the culture to the masses.

[Ohmega]

Ferry Corstens remix was much better

The full length limited edition BT releases eat these remix versions for lunch. And I'm not taking the album versions. That Dubstep version is the most retarded thing I have heard in years. The pitched up vocals sound like an auto-tune disaster.

[DJ Nutty]

Are you saying that armins stuff isn't trance or that it's not what you think true trance is.

What I mean is I believe that the stuff he plays is trance and the trance I like but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the only form of of the genre. And by that I'm not trying to differentiate it into another sub genre.

Ah hell, that doesn't sound anything like the point I'm trying to get across.

Basically they're both trance (slow and cheesey and hard n fast) but not sub genres of.

I would go as far as saying alot of what Armin and the big DJ's play now isn't Trance. Its nothing like what trance used to be like, and it just isn't trancey in the slightest. Not knocking Armin, as I used to love his radio show, but as someone else said, its just too watered down to be considered proper trance anymore. Last time I saw Armin play it was epic breakdown after epic breakdown, and just utterly boring. At most there was like 2 minutes of beats until it stopped for another 5 minute hands in the air moment..

The Psy/underground trance music is definitly becoming more popular these days tho, which can only be a good thing.

[Dave Porter]

numero deux in BP trance charts right now.....



nice little bass line on this one....



heatbeat can not do anything wrong right now. love this track.



Bit housey, but its been sold as trance on all good DL stores.



I could post up loads more, but I guess everyone gets the picture now.

Some good stuff tho........

[ChrisHynds]

That Shogun track sounds like shit, it sounds more Electro than it does Trance,

[Ohmega]

That Shogun track sounds like shit, it sounds more Electro than it does Trance,

Damn straight, that is the worst tune I have heard in years even if you want to call it Trance, Electro or whatever.

@Dave Porter,
I think you have single handly pissed off every "die-hard" Trance DJ on this site. Way to go!!!! Keep drinking that Kool-Aid because you truly have no clue as to what you are talking about and you continuously are putting your foot further in your mouth with these obsurd track posts trying to convince us that you know something.

I'm not nostalgic; I'm respectful of the genre. Something of which you know nothing about.

[Dave Porter]

I think you have single handly pissed off every "die-hard" Trance DJ on this site.

Define "Die Hard"..... Or is it just a bunch of flat earthers who cant move on?

Way to go!!!! Keep drinking that Kool-Aid

I like a nice cuppa Tea if thats alright with you.

because you truly have no clue as to what you are talking about

You clearly have no idea who to tell me I am really wrong. All you have done is attempt to patronise me.

and you continuously are putting your foot further in your mouth with these obsurd track posts trying to convince us that you know something.

I have tried to put my foot in my mouth, and I cant. Also I am not out to convince anyone of anything. I don't expect you to grow and accept the change going on. I am however clearly demonstrating that the top producers are altering their sound significantly.

I'm not nostalgic; I'm respectful of the genre. Something of which you know nothing about.

You dont know me, therefore this statement has no grounding.

Have a nice day xxx

[Dave Porter]

That Shogun track sounds like shit, it sounds more Electro than it does Trance,

Shotgun isnt anything special. Not overly keen on it my self, however I am sure it will grow on me given a few months.

[Sedna]

Couldn't really agree more with Nutty and Ohmega.

Like Nutty said, loads of underground trance get lumped under "psytrance" when they're really not; it's just that the commercial trance scene (Armin, Shogun, Tom Fall, sadly enough even Cosmic Gate these days...) has such a different sound that people can't seem to compare the two within the same genre.

A lot can still be said about some of the bigger names today, still. Simon Patterson, Activa, Markus Schulz <33333... these dudes stick to the roots still. No cheesy electro basslines, not the same repetitive riffs in every song... their tracks actually have feeling and dynamic.