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    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito View Post
    I really want to know what the heck you guys do to your decks where you feel the build quality of theDDJ-S1 comes into question. Pioneer has a number of CDJ decks that have been out in the market in clubs playing night after night without issue that are of the same build quality as the DDJ-S1 & no question into their reliability has been called into question. I have had CDJ 800 MK2 decks for close to a decade with one pair going out weekly as a rental package while another pair used by me almost on a daily basis without issue & it too has plastic platters.

    Unless you plan on beating the hell out of your platters with a hammer it will not be an issue, do expect the plastic to disintegrate or something over time? If four channels is what you really want (though of all the fur channel controller users I know of, they don't even utilize the extra channels in the long run) then you can also take into consideration the Pioneer DDJ-T1 but I am sure the strong arm dj's breaking all these plastic platers will call into question it's plastic platters as well.

    So really the whole plastic platter vs metal platter is a none issue unless you really don't know how you should be using your decks in the first place or go cheap, choose not to buy a good case then transport it around with a ton of stuff on top. Even then the metal platter controllers will potentially have issues wince the platters are touch sensitive & the fact you can still break one or more of the faders, or knobs on the controller. You don't have to baby your decks but common sense should prevail in proper care of the units.
    As stated countless times in countless threads by countless users, plastic vs. metal has more to do with tactileness, surface wear and aesthetics than actually holding up in real world use. Protection during transport is a whole other topic and irrelevant to what we are talking about. You don't have to mistreat equipment to make these comparisons. Again, this is a detail and quality than some users recognize, appreciate and demand, and some users just can't or don't. Kinda like how some people can recognize and appreciate the differences between a Timex and a Rolex. They both serve the same function and hold up just fine under normal use, but the quality of materials and manufacturing processes Rolex chooses to implement are demanded by some people. IMO, Pioneer has a habit of producing Timex quality gear and asking Rolex prices. That's it, nothing wrong with this at all, they are free to do what they want and by all acounts they appear to be pretty successful with this biz model. However, they won't be gaining me or many others I know as a customer as long as they continue to take these shortcuts — especially at the prices they ask for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [O/][iii][O/] View Post
    As stated countless times in countless threads by countless users, plastic vs. metal has more to do with tactileness, surface wear and aesthetics than actually holding up in real world use. .
    The tops of the platters to the DDJ-S1 have a textured finish that gives the feel of metal (though the sides do have a rubberized plastic feel, in a dark room of a gig you're not going to be able to tell the difference between the aesthetics of either platters so that's a none issue, I the fact that Pioneer has plastic plattered decks that have held up well for over a decade puts to rest any concern on how well they'll hold up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by [O/][iii][O/] View Post
    As stated countless times in countless threads by countless users, plastic vs. metal has more to do with tactileness, surface wear and aesthetics than actually holding up in real world use. .
    The tops of the platters to the DDJ-S1 have a textured finish that gives the feel of metal (though the sides do have a rubberized plastic feel, in a dark room of a gig you're not going to be able to tell the difference between the aesthetics of either platters so that's a none issue, I the fact that Pioneer has plastic plattered decks that have held up well for over a decade puts to rest any concern on how well they'll hold up.
    Good grief ^^^ This. This right here is precisely why I and others I know rarely come to these forums much anymore and post responses, because it's blatantly obvious members in large numbers don't bother to actually read the stuff that's posted within in them prior to posting responses themselves. I should've learned this lesson on DJForums.com V1 back when I suspected that the bulk of members are either severe sufferers of ADD, kids, or a combination of the two, but now I'm convinced of this.

    Lets's see if you can figure out the repeated disconnect in what you've written here without any assistance.

    I swear it's like watching Groundhog Day around here.
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    I want to hear all things DDJ in this thread... if you want to talk about some NUMARK product please start a thread for it thanks.


    I been watching videos of the DDJ the last few days. Its seems alot of their stuff came from the CDJ products. I currently have a vci300 and have mastered that controller very well and find myself looking for something better and more fun.

    I wanna hear the people who have this and enjoy using it.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJWhiteChoco View Post
    I want to hear all things DDJ in this thread... if you want to talk about some NUMARK product please start a thread for it thanks.
    Huh? We are talking about the DDJ. It's made by Pioneer, not Numark, and the DDJ being plastic is one of the things we're discussing about it. :confused:

    Quote Originally Posted by DJWhiteChoco View Post
    I wanna hear the people who have this and enjoy using it.
    Of course, but do you not also want to hear from those who don't enjoy using the DDJ (or simply can't because it is missing essential features)? I would think views from both sides would be beneficial, no? Please clarify. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by [O/][iii][O/] View Post
    Huh? We are talking about the DDJ. It's made by Pioneer, not Numark, and the DDJ being plastic is one of the things we're discussing about it.

    Of course, but do you not also want to hear from those who don't enjoy using the DDJ (or simply can't because it is missing essential features)? I would think views from both sides would be beneficial, no? Please clarify. Thanks
    No i agree with you totally....
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    Quote Originally Posted by [O/][iii][O/] View Post
    Good grief ^^^ This. This right here is precisely why I and others I know rarely come to these forums much anymore and post responses, because it's blatantly obvious members in large numbers don't bother to actually read the stuff that's posted within in them prior to posting responses themselves. I should've learned this lesson on DJForums.com V1 back when I suspected that the bulk of members are either severe sufferers of ADD, kids, or a combination of the two, but now I'm convinced of this.

    Lets's see if you can figure out the repeated disconnect in what you've written here without any assistance.

    I swear it's like watching Groundhog Day around here.
    Your repeated reply was addressed repeatedly the same since the reply shall carry the same response each time. Understand???? The view you have is the view YOU have not all the collective DJ fraternity thus your opinion not fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito View Post
    Your repeated reply was addressed repeatedly the same since the reply shall carry the same response each time. Understand???? The view you have is the view YOU have not all the collective DJ fraternity thus your opinion not fact.
    Ummm, well duh, of course they are opinions (well, except for the fact that the DDJ uses plastic where some other comparable controllers don't). Please humor me and show me where in this thread (anywhere actually) that I've claimed an opinion to be fact. While you're at it, please also do me the favor of showing me where I ever claimed my views, and others who may share my views represent the "collective DJ fraternity". Now I realize this task may be difficult for you since it requires that you actually READ, but the request still stands. Besides, isn't it easy to recognize and basic common knowledge when/where members post opinions vs. facts anyway? While you're mulling that over, also allow me to direct your short attention back to OP's original inquiry since you continue to prove my earlier observation and point that you (and some others) apparently aren't reading anything before you go and type responses. It's really comical actually.

    Quote Originally Posted by DJAkash View Post
    Hey everyone, wanted to know a few things, and hear your opinions on the Pioneer DDJ S1 I am thinking about getting it.
    http://pioneerdjusa.com/images/gear/...s/ddj-s1-1.jpg
    1. How is the audio quality?
    2. How is the response time?
    3. What reasons would someone not get it for
    4. Any personal likes/dislikes?
    5. What are the best alternatives ?
    Thanks
    Once again,



    PS: Even though you have posted multiple, groundless accusations towards me, in the spirit of "DJ fraternity" I will still reach out to you in the form of help and information since you are apparently having troubles making the distinction between fact and opinion by providing basic, simple, easy to read definition references for each (see below). The pages these links will take you to even provide audio pronunciations. Pretty flippin' cool huh!

    Fact: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fact

    Opinion: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJWhiteChoco View Post
    No i agree with you totally....
    back on track..aahahah

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    Incognito, I don't know how old you are, what your education is, or if perhaps you're mentally challenged/unstable, but based on this thread alone I'm thinking you should probably just stop right now. Seriously man, picking apart your arguments is like shooting fish in barrel (see below).
    Quote Originally Posted by Incognito View Post
    I really want to know what the heck you guys do to your decks where you feel the build quality of theDDJ-S1 comes into question.
    Even you ask questions you don't want answers to. I mean if your not going to read other's posts, the least you could do is read your own lol.

    Crazy man. Hilarious, but crazy.
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