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    I really have not understood the debate on this. Learn how to beatmatch by ear. Period. I liken this to musicians knowing how to play to a metronome. It's a basic skill that all should know.

    Do you have to beatmatch manually 100% of the time? Do you have to beatmix every track in every performance? That's up to each DJ. Use technology as much as you want, but the issue here isn't that; it's developing a basic skill.

    There really shouldn't be a debate. Learn how to beatmatch by ear... and move on to the next skill: Phrase matching.

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    i like that article man, very true indeed. may save it for when i meet any up and comers. first thing i did when i got my turntables was learn to beatmatch, and i still practice on occasion to keep the skills sharp. in addition though i have labeled every sleeve of my vinyls with the bpm of tracks to save myself time when mixing and choosing out of my crate. I think essentially beatmatching is a pillar skill as said in the article, but practicality doesn't hurt either.

    Edit: well said KLH, my thoughts exactly
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    This is like sync bashing without actually bashing sync.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by colione98 View Post

    But you have to agree, that looking at the BPM or manually or beat matching by ear still takes away from your ability to EQ or FX. Sync on the other hand eliminates that. So I really don't see how riding the pitch or looking at the BPM is any different...
    I have to disagree with that too, I mix with my hands not my eyes and I don't have to look at the equipment to know what I am touching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colione98 View Post
    Again, manually and by ear are two different techniques. Manually is using the pitch and can include the aid of BPM counters because every standard equipment has BPM at clubs... There is no going away from that. By ear is without the above...

    Tell me if roger sanchez has time on his hands to make his djing more fun by going bones and doing everything by ear without looking at the bpm on the CDJS...

    Full disclosure: I hate on CDJs any chance I get, as I find them soulless. I hate 90% of all "EDM" DJ's unless they bring an element of turntablism to their set e.g. Terrence Parker, and I hate on the sync button any chance I get.

    Now that we've got that out of the way, sorry, man, but that was uber boring and it seems like he had all the time in the world. Granted, I didn't make it all the way through the set because I was bored to tears, but it looks like DJ P is doing more with less time, all while beatmatching manually. I mean if he can do it, shouldn't Roger Sanchez be able to do the same?




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    Quote Originally Posted by jvine View Post
    To each their own.

    I know this is a discussion forum. But this right here pretty much.

    I dont dare put my 2 cents in here. I do not feel like being bashed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jvine View Post
    Full disclosure: I hate on CDJs any chance I get, as I find them soulless. I hate 90% of all "EDM" DJ's unless they bring an element of turntablism to their set e.g. Terrence Parker, and I hate on the sync button any chance I get.
    I find that 99% of the time, scratching and house music (not Festival EDM) sound awful together unless it is in the breakdown of a hip-hop influences track. You can hate what you whatever you want, but I think that is a weird way to judge a predominantly mix DJ.

    As for the soul, while i prefer wax, I find the soul has a lot more to do with what you are playing as opposed to what you are using to play it. Don't think listening to a James Brown CD denigrates his soul-credibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by jvine View Post
    I mean if he can do it, shouldn't Roger Sanchez be able to do the same?
    He can... in the same way Craze can kill without sync if he had to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish_Fox View Post
    I find that 99% of the time, scratching and house music (not Festival EDM) sound awful together unless it is in the breakdown of a hip-hop influences track. You can hate what you whatever you want, but I think that is a weird way to judge a predominantly mix DJ.

    As for the soul, while i prefer wax, I find the soul has a lot more to do with what you are playing as opposed to what you are using to play it. Don't think listening to a James Brown CD denigrates his soul-credibility.
    I'm not talking scratching, just more involved than 32/64 bar straight mixing etc. While I don't enjoy the music so much, I have a huge amount of respect for guys like BBB and Terrence Parker, because of wha they bring to the table skill wise.

    On soulless CDJs. It's not the cd I hate, it's the no moving platter and lack of "connection" with the music that I don't like about CDJs. But like I said, to each their own. I don't usually voice my opinion on this kind of stuff unless the topic pops up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Finnish_Fox View Post
    He can... in the same way Craze can kill without sync if he had to.

    I'm sure he can. My response was to more aimed colione98's argument of Sanchez not having enough time to those things in set without those aids. Much like sigma's thread a year ago or so, I hate that excuse.

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    I feel the need to play devil's advocate.

    IF you only perform with a DAW like Ableton Live, there's no need to ever beatmatch by ear, right?

    IF you only perform at home and never want to perform outside of the bedroom, there's no need to learn beatmatching by ear, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLH View Post
    I feel the need to play devil's advocate.

    IF you only perform with a DAW like Ableton Live, there's no need to ever beatmatch by ear, right?

    IF you only perform at home and never want to perform outside of the bedroom, there's no need to learn beatmatching by ear, right?

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    Agreed

    Not that my opinion matters, but I wouldn't really consider either example to be "DJ'ing" though.

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