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    Why would someone need a distribution license and pay royalties if they uploaded a mix of theirs onto a site?


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    Quote Originally Posted by djAj90 View Post
    99% of DJ's are hypocrites
    Nah, they just don't like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blackest View Post
    Why would someone need a distribution license and pay royalties if they uploaded a mix of theirs onto a site?
    Because, depending on the law in your particular country, you don't have the right to make and distribute mixes, remixes or mashups using other peoples' songs unless you get permission from the copyright holder.

    How the law is enforced depends on the particular label/artist. Some don't care, some do. But the worst that usually happens is your mix gets taken down and if that repeatedly happens, you lose your YouTube/SoundCloud/whatever account, which is why DJs don't mind taking the risk.

    Mixcloud is one site that does pay royalties, which is why it's a DJ friendly place. You can upload your mix there without the risk of it being taken down.

    Mixcloud is committed to supporting artists who appear in music Cloudcasts and has an objective to provide a superior legal alternative to file sharing. As such, Mixcloud is fully licensed by the SoundExchange, PRS for Music and the PPL, and all playback of copyrighted songs contained within the tracklists on the site are reported so that the correct licensing royalties can be attributed to the artists.
    http://support.mixcloud.com/customer...righted-music-

    SoundCloud, on the other hand.....

    Why has my sound been removed from my profile?
    Probably because someone has claimed that the sound infringes their copyright. Please check the mailbox of your registered email address and your SoundCloud inbox for an email about this. Remember to only upload sounds to which you own all rights, or for which you hold all necessary permissions and licenses. Make sure to request those authorizations before you upload a sound to your profile.

    What’s up with your automatic content identification system? Why did it block my sounds?
    SoundCloud is a community of sound creators, and for that community to thrive, everyone needs to respect copyright. For this reason, we use an automated content identification system to identify known copyright works. If your sound is blocked when you try to upload it to your account, that means that our system has recognized something in your sound that it knows is protected by copyright.
    http://help.soundcloud.com/customer/...cs/39593-legal

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    Last edited by Sigma; 01-24-2013 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Blackest View Post
    Why would someone need a distribution license and pay royalties if they uploaded a mix of theirs onto a site?

    Because that makes the music (Which does not belong to you, whether you stole it or you paid for it.) available to the public. Which does not fall under fair use just because you mixed it, added stuff to it & tweaked around with it.

    Loading your mixes up to SoundCloud is illegal, because that site does not pay the songs' owners anything when you do. Loading the exact same mix up to Mixcloud is legal, because that site pays the songs' owners based on how many times the songs are played on that site.
    Last edited by Windows 95; 01-24-2013 at 06:54 AM.
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    Oh wow, never really knew that. I used to sell mixes that I've made at various raves/clubs back in the day. Of course that was back when the industry(at least in Merrica) didn't really care for EDM.

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    If other dj's on other sites pirate music and play it out and no one cares, that says something about the site and the people on it. My opinion is that if you're in the music business, you should be held to a higher standard and do the most you can to support the artists that make the music that makes your job possible

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    I guess that explains the Beatport dj page I just got. You're able to upload mixes of yours on there if the majority of the tunes on it are purchased from Beatport.

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    It would be good if DJs made a combined effort to avoid labels and sites that aren't DJ friendly - I'm guilty in that respect too though, cos I still use SoundCloud. But it's one of those cases where I feel like just me boycotting them would do fuck all, but if everyone got together and said "OK, we'll all go to Mixcloud instead", it would have a massive effect on their business. SoundCloud was great until 2011 when they introduced the automatic waveform scanner and it's progressively got more restrictive since then.

    Some of the labels are dicks too. The other day I read about a blogger that had received a takedown notice from a label. The blogger had gone to the label's SoundCloud page and there was a new track on there - it was available for anyone to stream - so he embedded a SoundCloud player into a post on his blog and wrote a short review of the song. The label said he had no right to do this and told him to take it down, even though the review of the song was positive, otherwise they'd have to take action against him, so he took it down. If you don't want people reviewing your song, don't put it up in a public place that offers embeddable players!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma View Post
    Some of the labels are dicks too. The other day I read about a blogger that had received a takedown notice from a label. The blogger had gone to the label's SoundCloud page and there was a new track on there - it was available for anyone to stream - so he embedded a SoundCloud player into a post on his blog and wrote a short review of the song. The label said he had no right to do this and told him to take it down, even though the review of the song was positive, otherwise they'd have to take action against him, so he took it down. If you don't want people reviewing your song, don't put it up in a public place that offers embeddable players!
    soundcloud also has an option to hide the embed code. failure on their part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klh View Post
    nah, they just don't like you.

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