Don't Stand For Plagiarised Music!

**disparate** · 10-31-2012, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by TCMuc

5 years later Tiesto turned that same classical song that had already been made into a trance song into another trance song which happens to sound not too different from the first trance song without mentioning the composer of the orignial theme or the first trance song. On a scale of 1-10, Tiesto's level of creativity and originality for this song would be, let's see... - minus 11...

First of all I wouldn't forget to credit Ferry Corsten who made the trance remix of William Orbit's version.
Secondly it doesn't sound "not too different", the Orbit version/Ferry remix is 100x better

**Andrew1207** · 10-31-2012, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Manu

Tiesto - adagio for strings. Was released without no mention of Barber on the sleeve.

http://www.discogs.com/Ti%C3%ABsto-A...release/513497

That shows credit given to Barber...

Anyways shit like this happens all the time with every genre of music. People cover songs and title them with "Their band/artist name" - "original title of song"...not sure how copyright laws work with that but it's been happening since the beginning of music.

As for the topic of the original post, it definitely pisses me off that people just blatantly steal someone elses work. I have been noticing it happen A LOT on soundcloud lately too. Random fucks will upload remixes claiming them as their own, and in some cases get a lot of downloads/exposure from them, and as I keep looking around for other tracks I will see that same exact song from another person who ended up being the one who actually created it.

**Adzm00** · 10-31-2012, 02:36 PM

I've seen some complaints of this recently where they have sampled the track and made a remix. People then complaining of "stealing", well its not.

However, taking a track and releasing it as your own with no modification is fkin stupid.

**AdrianR** · 11-01-2012, 01:43 AM

People do it dude.

**RaySwift** · 11-01-2012, 02:40 AM

In this sue happy world, he should get a lawyer and also tag your shit.

**RDRCK** · 11-01-2012, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Manu

Tiesto - adagio for strings. Was released without no mention of Barber on the sleeve.

Isn't the difference though, that Adagio for Strings was in the Public Domain? Also, if someone were to write an electronic version of, say, Ode To Joy, and then fail to mention Beethoven in the liner notes, do you really think that anyone with half a brain would assume that the electronic version was the original?

**TCMuc** · 11-01-2012, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by RDRCK

Isn't the difference though, that Adagio for Strings was in the Public Domain? Also, if someone were to write an electronic version of, say, Ode To Joy, and then fail to mention Beethoven in the liner notes, do you really think that anyone with half a brain would assume that the electronic version was the original?

Sadly, this happens more often than you might believe. Many people who only know a cover version or remix of a track tend to believe it's the original... Happens a Lot with newer music, e.g. With Daft Punks 'harder better faster stronger' and the Kanye West version, and actually I would believe today's youth to be dumb enough to take beethoven's original as some kind of 'crazy unplugged version'...

Originally Posted by Adzm00

I've seen some complaints of this recently where they have sampled the track and made a remix. People then complaining of "stealing", well its not.

Well, it actually is. Using other people's music, even if it is just a very short sample or sound, is a copyright violation or 'intellectual property theft'. If you wanna use somebody else's music, go ask for permission, and if it's for a commercial release be prepared to pay...

Everything else is exactly one thing: stealing

**Finnish_Fox** · 11-01-2012, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by TCMuc

Well, it actually is. Using other people's music, even if it is just a very short sample or sound, is a copyright violation or 'intellectual property theft'. If you wanna use somebody else's music, go ask for permission, and if it's for a commercial release be prepared to pay...

The bold portion of your statement couldn't be less accurate, granted you "fixed" it in your follow-up statement. Sampling, itself, is not stealing. It only becomes stealing if and when you sample without the proper license.