Did Avicii rip of Cassius in My Feelings for You? Or is it the other way aroud?

[Smallz]

Sampling is great. I have no problem with that. But when one producer "does their homework" as someone else put it and digs through the crates and finds a great sample, then Avicii comes over and copies their "homework" its bullshit.

And I didn't mean to say Avicii has to legally credit Pretty Lights or Cassius. I understand that he doesn't have to, legally. He is only sampling the original song. Got it. Understood that from the beginning.

Who here is an Avicii fan? Flo Rida?

Silhouettes is an interesting track to listen to.

But I understand where you're coming from now, and I agree with what you're saying. I enjoy both versions and i give more credit to cassius than avicii on the entirety of the song. I guess i just have roped avicii and his songs with "listen to this without much expectation." avicii's tracks are fun to listen to, but there isn't much merit to it, and i do give credit where credit is due.

[trauma11]

Derek Vincent Smith, better known as Pretty Lights, sampled etta james song in his track Finally Moving. What was done with flo ridas track was a rip off of the instrumental to Finally Moving, not a re sample of etta james original. Derek made one public statement regarding the flo rida track and he indicated he did not work on the track and he knew it was his song because of a guitar riff he used, not the vocal sample.

[tuurrtles]

Oh really?! I didn't try to dig up any dirt on it, I just vented straight on the forums.

And I'm guessing there's no lawsuit...cause we all know the record company would win. Money wins trials in the U.S.

[Finnish_Fox]

Just listened to the Avicii track... not sure how anyone can think he just happened to use the same original sample instead of straight up ripping off Cassius' usage of it.

[Nick Bike]

Derek Vincent Smith, better known as Pretty Lights, sampled etta james song in his track Finally Moving. What was done with flo ridas track was a rip off of the instrumental to Finally Moving, not a re sample of etta james original. Derek made one public statement regarding the flo rida track and he indicated he did not work on the track and he knew it was his song because of a guitar riff he used, not the vocal sample.

just as random FYI the guitar riff that Pretty Lights sampled isn't from the Etta James track but from Judy Clay & William Bell - Private Number


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[DJ STU-C]

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[Finnish_Fox]

Sampling is great. Being lazy and taking the sample someone else found and edited is not.

[JuxtaPoser]

Sampling is great. Being lazy and taking the sample someone else found and edited is not.

This!

I love sampling in music, I'm fascinated by it and stumbling across a sample I recognise on an old record is one of my favourite things.

Conversely, hearing the same tired samples getting re-used by other producers is a pet peeve of mine.

Digging through old music looking for a great sample is an art - copying something from another producer to cash in is not.

[Boomcie]

I have no problem with producers using the same samples. Samples can be chopped and flipped in so many different ways. Here are two songs using the exact same sample, but two completely different sounds. These are only 2 of the 20+ songs that sampled the same record.

[General Sherman]

re-using the same samples that someone else already made a hit out of is so weak. there are literally billions and trillions of samples in the world to use. it's super lazy and uncreative.

my thoughts exactly. Personally the others just ruined pretty light's track for me. Especially Flo Rida's, sounded so out of context and tacky. We are talking about textbook mainstream artists though, and they have never been notorious for taking risks or creating something unique. All about the benjamins. There is a difference between using a sample for artistic reasons and using it because of its hit potential.