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    The advantages of older (non-superstar) djs

    Not to undermine anyone and or of any level but simply an observation based on experience.

    Quite of few of the local djs here in Miami that have been on the scene for a bit had dinner before heading to LIV Miami last thursday and the topic arose of us being older in this new generation of dance culture is actually helping us locally.

    Being born and raised in NYC but having lived after the age of 19 in 5 different countries from Japan, Thailand, Australia, former Soviet Republic and now in miami, I have been exposed to a lot of different music since starting in 93. What I am noticing is that there is a great deal of anthem tracks (big room progressive) with a very much commercial sound. Its not say its any bad but a bit different from the progressive that was being produced between 95-2009 that I play.

    I have also noticed that there is also a great deal of younger djs holding residencies that have started in the early to late 2008 playing progressive and electro anthem sounds. This surely gives us older djs or at least me the opportunity to play out many of my early progressive tracks from 2003-2006 and on. They are actually received well and have a different sound to what is played at many clubs today. Not to say that my music is any better, however, its not as "anthem" sounding. And its not to say that the less anthem stuff isn't being played. Im just stating that many of the clubs have that anthem sound as it relates to the festival anthem sounds. The sound im referring to has more of a bass line groove with solid punches and added ear candy vocals. Many of my tracks are from german, russian, italian, and spanish producers.

    Not only that, many of the progressive tribal producers are producing a lighter percussive tech sound which I have not problem with. Its just that I wish they would bring it home once in a while- prime example - Dj Chus from Stereo-Productions. I asked him 2 years ago why he wasn't producing the Balearic summer vocal vibes or the thumping tribal. He said the summer vocals weren't selling and he was focusing more on lighter notes and leaving the bangers to TNIL and he wasn't feeling the dark tribe as much at the time.

    Im actually loving this new wave. Its really making way for older guys like me. And being older, Im more able to parle with the management and it allows me to open up my own room and set the mood with my wide arrange of sound. I am so surprised at how SHM is so big but hardly anyone knows of Axwell's older 2002 Sulfuric releases.... That right there should tell you something

    Things are actually looking up for older (non-superstar djs) especially for those that have a great career outside of djing and don't plan on spending time away from their families living in hotels....

    Be well and be safe!

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    Last edited by colione98; 10-15-2012 at 12:33 AM.

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    A lot of soldiers spend a lot of time away from their families, and not for the same reasons. I can't really see how being paid to gig in Miami could possibly be such a hassle. You really sound like you have trouble keeping with trends, though it is safe to assume you don't play anymore full on sets with a sampled guy yelling "acid , acid, acccciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeed, acid, acid, accciiiiiiiiieeeeeed" etc, for the whole duration. In 2 or 3 years from now, the trend will have evolved and new DJ will emerge.

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    I think it's a mistake to assume that older DJ's know more about music than younger DJ's - geeks will be geeks, in whatever era. I know some young cats that would put my musical knowledge to shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlove View Post
    I think it's a mistake to assume that older DJ's know more about music than younger DJ's - geeks will be geeks, in whatever era. I know some young cats that would put my musical knowledge to shame.
    I'd say you know your stuff inside out when it comes to reggae and all the dub scene, but I'd bury you with my metal knowledge. Different tastes for different folks and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manu View Post
    I'd say you know your stuff inside out when it comes to reggae and all the dub scene, but I'd bury you with my metal knowledge. Different tastes for different folks and all that.
    True, I know quite a lot, but in the whole scheme of things, I don't know that much - if I were to go up against Shepdog (for example) in 20 questions, I'd lose

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    I tried to get a gig in Miami during the WMC this year. Funnily, the first person I emailed agreed to let me play when I went over, as the date drew closer communication became rarer until someone e-mailed me saying the person who booked me had since been fired and that the new people had allready booked up the roster. Spewing.

    Its the same in anything though. I study 2 martial arts and would expect people who are black belts or instructors to know more about the other martial art than I do, just through curiosity and through learning more about the others to understand their own. I'm not sure if its the case entirely but I know that at one class inparticular there are A LOT of new guys who know a lot more about a lot of different martial arts and mix it into their game. I think the same applies to Dj's. Some guys dig the history of it all and like to learn about it. They want to know the classics and shit to impress the hardcore veterans or at least earn their respect. Others just want to play their stuff, they don't care about the history they just do what they do and thats enough for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colione98 View Post
    And being older, Im more able to parle with the management and it allows me to open up my own room and set the mood with my wide arrange of sound. I am so surprised at how SHM is so big but hardly anyone knows of Axwell's older 2002 Sulfuric releases.... That right there should tell you something



    colione.
    I think it's a fine line I feel blessed to still be doing it, but I don't want to sit on a residency just because I can, & be resented by the young talent coming up. I only get things on every couple of months now, and don't compete for the majority of dates, which go to the young scenesters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlove View Post
    True, I know quite a lot, but in the whole scheme of things, I don't know that much - if I were to go up against Shepdog (for example) in 20 questions, I'd lose
    Reminds me of a guy I knew who was so savvy about music in general, he'd walk in a pub, beat all those pub machines asking you music questions and buy rounds..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manu View Post
    Reminds me of a guy I knew who was so savvy about music in general, he'd walk in a pub, beat all those pub machines asking you music questions and buy rounds..
    Excellent skill deployment

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