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    got a problem and i need some advice

    I just started working in a bar, a co worker/fellow dj helped get me the audition/job. he has helped me a lot. i close on a lot of nights, so the other night i was stayed after with the bosses and played tunes and got drunk. they said they loved my music, and that they want me to help my friend by giving him some music or telling him how i am going about finding and selecting music. they also said that they expect that as i hone my skills and learn the bar's crowd i should be able to headline.

    the problem is how do you tell a fellow dj they might need to change up their style? especially when they are much more experienced and skilled than you. my talent as it were lies in a compulsive amount of digging and a bit of an ear. i have tried to make suggestions and such but you know deaf ears. i really owe this guy a lot, for everything he has done (teaching me about the clubs systems indiosyncratic sound system, about the bars software etc. when to bring up the etc) and the longer it takes for me to get through to him the worse it will make me look (and i will feel) if things go wrong. i want to just give him some tunes and hope he takes some of them. it isn't a problem of giving him heaters cause there are more than enough out there to fill an infinite number of sets. like i said i am compulsive.

    i found about twenty the last couple of days. i might just give them to him, well with the exception of one that is just something i really want to break.

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    So he is the headliner on all nights you are there?

    If so, just come out and tell him that the owners liked your stuff and even mentioned headlining. Tell him you are not necessarily comfortable with it because thats his spot.
    Since they liked your stuff suggest your friend incorporate some of it in his sets or maybe you guys can drop the opener/closer - headliner routine and just become a DJ duo or alternate every hour or two.

    I wouldnt try to sugar coat it by trying to sneak in your style/taste of music into his sets. Thats patronizing and could come back to bite you in the ass if your friend/mentor ends up feeling like you backstabbed him.
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    I would try and be truthful with your friend/colleague, but you've got to be subtle: DJs being DJs we can be arrogant difficult narcissists when we want to be. Your friend probably thinks he plays the best music in the world. Practically all the DJs I know think they, and they alone play the best music in the world.

    I would try and sugar coat this by suggesting that you duo DJ; the guy has obviously helped you a lot and you don't want to sour the relationship. DJing back to back together can be great fun, and would be a great way to encourage your partner to play more tunes like yours... Although you have to watch out he doesn't expect you to start playing his sounding stuff to the detriment of your own sound.
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    i'll try and give both of these a shot. cours e i will go with subtle first. thanks guys.


    also forgot to mention using an alias cause my original user name is connected with my name. rep you guys when i log on with my orig.

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    haven't had the opportunity to try the advice yet. but there was a strange twist. first he did pick up a couple of songs i have played so that should be cool.

    second mid week which can be really slow two knuckle heads came in and i guess they thought it was a "lounge" lounge. which it is but it gets really busy and like a club on fridays and saturdays, so there is a security team. anyway two dudes came in and were looking for a fight, they picked one with him i came from behind the decks to get his back (so he wasn't standing there by himself) and got securities attention. they got thrown out and were waiting for him to leave.

    well fight went down after we closed. and i was in the middle of things throwing fists, so he knows i am a friend and have his back. nothing like a fight to let you know where people stand.

    meow i repped you from my real account.

    and mahatma apparently i have repped you too much so i am going to have to get you later.

    thanks again guys.
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    I think it's a bit shady of the bosses to be putting the onus on you to discuss this with the other guy. If I was the other guy, I would think "oh, so the new guy and the boss have been talking behind my back huh?" and that in itself is annoying.

    If I was the boss, I would say to you that I was going to get you both in to discuss it and I would ask you to pretend it's the first time the issue has been raised. Then I would just lay out how I felt to both of you in as diplomatic a way as I could. The other guy may feel some malice towards you anyway, but it would be lessened doing it that way.

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    yeah sig, i had that thought. i might ask them can we have because they come up sometimes and are like make it funkier or whatever 50% of the time i already have what they want ready to play.


    the stats on here count for much in the real world. but bones if you read this is an alias. not sure if he or somebody he knows comes here ya know. and by the way my actual account has 10 times the posts of yours.

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