Not one of these threads again.gif "Facepalm")
If Hip-Hop should die before I wake, I'll put an extended clip in my AK, find every controllerist and murder the DJ - Nas (alright I changed a couple words around).
I understand people have to start somewhere. We all did. If you want to buy a controller/sync and only play the same tempo music, I wouldnt reccomend it if at some point you're trying to be a versatile club DJ, but as a human, you're free to do what you want, and I could care less cause it doesnt effect me.
I'm not sure people have an issue w/ EDM DJ's, I think their problem is with the huge influx of DJ's who arent ready for gigs, but yet they are clogging/ruining the market for others who are way more talented but because of numbers, will never even get a shot or are paid less then what DJ's were getting 10 years ago cause DJ No Clue used to do it for free untill we booted his ass. After a couple months of playing the same tempo music, pressing sync, and crossfading a few songs together, they think they are ready for the big time. Ask them if they play anything popular, "oh sure , heres my 128 BPM electro remix of Call Me Maybe. Thats Top 40,right?" Get the *uck out of here . Look at pretty much any new DJ today, I would guess most of them are EDM only DJ's. Obviously I know they like EDM, but I also think a lot of them are forced to only play EDM music cause they don't even have the skills to transition into different tempo genres, but yet, quite a few of them are looking to get gigs.
I venture to guess that if Sync buttons never existed, EDM sales would be less then half as much as they are today.
Long Live Hip-Hop
Last edited by B3NNY; 08-08-2012 at 04:14 PM.
I mostly play dance music (or EDM if you must, although that seems to refer more to shite poppy house music these days?) and I enjoy doing so because of the vast range of it out there, and the fact that there are audiences worldwide who're very happy to hear underground music rather than pop. I think like a lot of people here you seem to underestimate the breadth and appetite for good dance music - of course it's somewhat obscured by the Guetta/Avicii type shite but there's nothing wrong with mostly playing electronic stuff, or even mostly playing just house and techno. And I've been into it since long before the sync function was invented, and many of the pioneers have been DJing for longer than I've been alive.Originally Posted by B3NNY
For what it's worth I'm quite a big hip hop head too...
I can't believe people have to ask this question!
If you're going to become a Carpenter, and you're going to buy the nicest new nail gun to do it, when you go to build that house if you don't know the basics it's going to fall onto the client isn't it?
I think people ASSUME the basics of being a Dj is just, beat matching. Or maybe even track selection. No. Dj-ing at a professional level, ANY professional level is A LOT more than that and what really shits me is when Dj's don't know how to accomodate and work WITH sound engineers, or Radio Hosts (who are, guess whart? DJ'S!) Or they don't understand different mixers or turntables or things like that. They can only work on their alloted equipment and can't perform otherwise. And I get the whole "I want to do the best performance" arguement but learning those basics is what allows you to be versatile. It allows you to improvise and it allows you to be more professional so that when the bar manager and other DJ's and everyone else is losing their shit, you can keep your cool cos you know EXACTLY what to do BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE BASICS.
Thats why we get pissed off ... because we spent years learning THAT shit. Never mind the beat matching. Fuck all that shit. We spent years actually going out, hooking up consoles, playing to various crowds, doing the gigs NO ONE wants to do, so that we could learn that stuff! And for what? We now lose the major club gigs and everything because we don't have friends on facebook? Well I'm sorry, do you want me to be a Dj or a promoter? Meanwhile, Mr Facebook "You add me I'll add you" newly dubbed Dj Dickhead has tried to convince the club or bar that he's famous on Facebook, and welll he's getting the gig isn't he? Except, then he's going to try and act famous.... By pushing his levels to the shit house and blowing every speaker in the venue. Or then he's going to forget some cruicial peice of equipment and not know what to do. Or some other incident will arrise where he or she won't have the experience to cope with it and the result is, the bar owner is pissed off, the patrons are pissed off, everyone then thinks the VENUE is shit. What happens then? THEY DON'T GO BACK TO THE VENUE... So the bar gets rid of you, because they've learned the errors of their way but guess what? When the new guys step in, they just have to try all that much harder to repair the mistakes. And slowly, ALLL the parties in town that the unexperienced Dj's touch become tainted!
That's why I used the builders analogy. ... What happens when the house falls down and the proper trades person with years of experience has to come in to rebuild? He has to then pick up ALLL the peices, alll the fuck ups you've made, and correct them. It makes his job 1000 times harder where as if it was done properly from the start, you could still be on that sight building the garage as well, and rather than the experienced guys being called in to fix shit, it might be YOU calling them saying "hey mate I've got too much work on now, can you do this job for me, because I know you got the experience to do it well" and things grow and everyone benefits from it.
Your lucky I just posted a massive reply recently, because if I hadn't I'd be using a massive reply to comment on that one
This.
What a stupid thing to ask. There is no way I could have put the amount of time in to DJing that I have if I didn't love the music I was playing.
Why would you even bother if you don't enjoy the music?
www.londontechnoblog.com / www.soundcloud.com/adam-bloy
Cpl. Josh Ray Person:
"There are layers of retardation people don't even know about"
true. if you do it for the money there are jobs that are better suited for that considering the time and money you have to invest first without a guarantee of making money at all.
Hold on, playa...
I make mixes because I love the music. I perform as a DJ because I love to entertain crowds with the music I love to hear. The money is a result of doing a great job entertaining, but I'd make mixes and perform because of my love of music, not because of money or fame or girls or the desire to be loved.
-KLH
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