Why on earth are Pioneer DJM's like this?

[Blueprint]

I'm still not quite sure what the problem is.. you're basically mixing in reverse, listening to the master as you blend in your track which you perceive to be beatmatched already, right?

If that's the case, then have the knob all the way to the right on the master and as it comes in, you'll hear it mixing in. When on the far right, the master channel will be the loudest but if cue'd channel is not loud enough while listening, you can move the knob to the left to even it out.

This is all non-sense though, there's like three different ways to mix a track on a djm, if you can't mix with three options, you probably need to spend more time practicing since most mixers don't have more than two options.

[B3NNY]

I'm still not quite sure what the problem is.. you're basically mixing in reverse, listening to the master as you blend in your track which you perceive to be beatmatched already, right?

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If you have a 900 then set your master output low (like his was) and then cue your master and another channel your trying to mix in. You'll see what he's talking about

[Estacy]

Ecler got it perfectly right in my opinion, a pfl/master knob, but no PFL on the master channel, just on the channels. when you turn the pfl/master knob to master, you hear the master regardless of the volume setting on the master. Works like a charm, on every possible volume level.

[Adzm00]

Eh. Just use the mxing knob and turn it further towards master rather than cue?

[Ryan Ruel]

Ecler got it perfectly right in my opinion, a pfl/master knob, but no PFL on the master channel, just on the channels. when you turn the pfl/master knob to master, you hear the master regardless of the volume setting on the master. Works like a charm, on every possible volume level.

My Rane does this as well, as did my prior Xone 92 and Xone 3D and Denon DN-X1500. I've used a lot of mixers!

It's not that there aren't other ways to mix, I don't need a cue/master blend knob to mix very well, I've been doing it for a "few" years

I guess I can see that they were probably trying to let you hear if the track you were cueing was basically on the same level as what was outputting the mixer. It's just that in reality, you don't run the master out at 0Db and adjust the outboard gear, particularly in a club. The amps and processing is almost always locked away.

They should have added in a setting, or a switch. Particularly on the DJM-900 where the mixer is one giant DSP.

I actually didn't even think to cue up both the channels as an alternative, and use the gain trims to basically do the same thing.

It's still a stupid design

[punky]

I know what you mean, it get's quite annoying. I find I'm always pushing my master into the mid-high yellow's to get my preferred cueing level. I don't know of any way to get around this.

Yeah, I agree with the OP. This is pants on head wrong, and the DJM is the only mixer I've ever used that does things this way.

[monomer]

Ecler got it perfectly right in my opinion, a pfl/master knob, but no PFL on the master channel, just on the channels. when you turn the pfl/master knob to master, you hear the master regardless of the volume setting on the master. Works like a charm, on every possible volume level.

THIS.

First thing I noticed.


Not a fan of pioneer of a&h.

[Adzm00]

Thing that annoys me most is having the FX loop on the FX selection knob.

What tit thought that was a good idea? So how am I supposed to route my EFX1000?

I know I can put it on to the master, which is pointless as it cannot be used on individual channels and it will not be picked up through the record out. Height of stupidity.

[Ryan Ruel]

How is this a problem?

You have your EFX-1000 connected to the DJM send/return, then to use the EFX-1000 you select the send/return with the effects selection knob, and use the effects assign knob to assign it to an individual channel or the master. You can leave the wet knob on the EFX-1000 set to full on wet and use the wet/dry on the DJM.

What am I missing? Or do you mean you want to use the EFX-1000 AND the DJM-900's effect at the same time? I can see that being annoying. Although effectively using both could be interesting At least you can still use the color FX.

Thing that annoys me most is having the FX loop on the FX selection knob.

What tit thought that was a good idea? So how am I supposed to route my EFX1000?

I know I can put it on to the master, which is pointless as it cannot be used on individual channels and it will not be picked up through the record out. Height of stupidity.

[Adzm00]

Or do you mean you want to use the EFX-1000 AND the DJM-900's effect at the same time?

That is exactly what I mean.