I have a question about your fog machines. How long does one gallon of fluid last on those?
I have a question about your fog machines. How long does one gallon of fluid last on those?
why not have both? haze for indoor, fog for outdoor.
HAHA! I got all excited when I saw a new post on this thread after I asked my question. Thinking it the answer to my question... LOL LOLOriginally Posted by DJ Higgumz
Haha. I do advise on saving up for a hazer, it is well worth it. Foggers are designed to be an effect not for light complimenting. Read mystics sticky about lighting. A fazer is probably better, though I've never used one.
Haze for sure, just get a better unit. Look at Antari.
If you have the money Le Maitre is the best hazers in the business. http://www.lemaitre.co.uk/productInf...&UKeyProduct=3
Their Neutron XS hazer looks a lot like the Chauvet Hurricane Haze 2. The output looks the same too. I wonder if it is the same unit?
I hope not. I've gone through two Haze 2's in the past 14 months, and as far as I'm concerned the product is junk. I know a lot of people like them, but mine are boat anchors. They also suck a lot of fluid.Their Neutron XS hazer looks a lot like the Chauvet Hurricane Haze 2.
Let's step back for a second and talk about haze -vs- smoke. Fog/smoke machines use combustion and hazers, well, don't. Fog/smoke machines partially 'burn' the fluid so that the droplets are forced out of the heater coil by air pressure via expanding gas pressure, which is why they are loud. The heating of the fluid also causes the drops to fill with air bubbles, causing them to be opaque, but basically white.
Haze machines use mechanical compression in the form of a sprayer / venturi or compressed gas (Co2) for oil based 'crackers' to break the fluid into smaller drops. Also, many smaller hazers do have a heating element, because if they didn't the haze would fall to the floor because it's room temp and the droplets are rather large compared to more expensive units. Warm haze will rise, which is what we want given 90% of them are run near the floor and are lights are on a truss.
Fog / smoke machines, due to the nature of their particles formed by combustion tend to be harder for lower powered lighting to get through. Hazers one the other hand produce drops which are inherently clear, so it's easier for light to get through. Also, smoke / fog machines tend to produce much more of an odor than hazers. The problem with hazers, and where I differ from a lot of the so called 'garage experts' on youtube is refraction only gets you so far and is limited off axis. If you have brighter lights I found fog / smoke worked better, but needed some tweaks (see below). For smaller rooms and venus haze is likely preferable because it's more even and lights are confined. This hower doesn't work in my situation.
Like I said, I've gone through a couple Haze 2's, and wasn't impressed with them when they worked. A buddy of mine has a Lemaitre, and while I didn't do a side by side I swear the haze consistency was very similiar. Two differences were the Lemaitre haze was neutral in color while the Haze 2 running Chauvet fluid has a slight yellow cast in it. The Lemaitre also used 1/4 the fluid as the Haze 2, and it, ahem, still works.
My choices were to either go with an arena class hazer because I have a large venu to support, or some kind of way to get my smoke / fog to work better. Oil based hazers are not an option for me, so I had to improvise. What I ended up doing was cutting water based fog juice 1:1 with distilled water, and this reduced the density of the smoke / fog to near perfection. I use cheap Eliminator fog-juice, and mix it 1:1 with distilled water, and it works great. Smell is reduced a bit, clogging is drastically reduced to the point of no longer being a problem, and consumables prices are halved. A have a Chauvet hurricane 1800 flex, a Chauvet 1300, and Irradiant Flex (now called an Irradiant Variable). The Irradiant is the best unit of the three, is less noisy, and allow you to adjust smoke density rather than duration on auto.
All three units run *much* better using diluted fog juice. A couple strategically placed house fans also help disperse things.
buy a radiance and youll never go back
Just got my Chauvet haze 2d and love it pictures are better light beams are perfect and it is very quiet I was using dyno fogs before and this thing replaced two fog machines filled the event center faster and uses less power almost no warm up time I absolutely love it
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