Stick with haze or go back to fog?

[jlcpremier]

I have a ADJ Haze Generator which has been great for the last 2 years, no problems other then the remote going bad, and getting replaced. Plus I love how I don't have to go through gallons and gallons of fluid like I had to do with fog. I purchased it because I heard that haze was better then fog overall and especially when it comes to working at indoor venues that haze is allowed. Lately more and more indoor venues have been telling me to turn the haze off even when I explain to them it poses no risk to their fire alarms...they simply don't care, and it kills the effectiveness of my lighting. Also I've been doing quite a few outdoor shows and the hazer pretty much is useless outdoors. It doesn't disperse like fog, so most of it blows away before ever reaching the dance floor, so I'm thinking it may be time to go back to fog. Any recommendations? I'd say I need one that can handle everything from a 50 kid dance upwards of filling a high school gym. Also not looking to spend a huge amount of money either. My hazer cost upwards of $400 so would prefer to stay at or under the $200 range.

[instinct]

I have a ADJ Haze Generator which has been great for the last 2 years, no problems other then the remote going bad, and getting replaced. Plus I love how I don't have to go through gallons and gallons of fluid like I had to do with fog. I purchased it because I heard that haze was better then fog overall and especially when it comes to working at indoor venues that haze is allowed. Lately more and more indoor venues have been telling me to turn the haze off even when I explain to them it poses no risk to their fire alarms...they simply don't care, and it kills the effectiveness of my lighting. Also I've been doing quite a few outdoor shows and the hazer pretty much is useless outdoors. It doesn't disperse like fog, so most of it blows away before ever reaching the dance floor, so I'm thinking it may be time to go back to fog. Any recommendations? I'd say I need one that can handle everything from a 50 kid dance upwards of filling a high school gym. Also not looking to spend a huge amount of money either. My hazer cost upwards of $400 so would prefer to stay at or under the $200 range.

Hazers can set off fire alarms.. Everyone on here will say NO.. but I believe that ADJ Haze is pretty much a junk hazer anyways..

What kind of event are you using these for?? I use fog outside all the time.. really depends on the wind.. but usually works pretty well. I am not doing "classy" events though where haze may be needed.

[jlcpremier]

Been checking out a few options....the Chauvet Hurricanes come pretty highly rated. I'm just trying to decide between going with the 1100 or spend the extra $50 and get the 1300 w/ the timer remote. The 1300 is a lot bigger and louder from what i understand though. All I know is I used to have a ADJ Dyno Fog II and that thing was crap, so not looking at going down that road again.

[Synaxis]

Instinct is correct. Haze is capable of setting of fire alarms. A fire alarm works by detecting how many particles there are in the air per a specific volume.

Haze essentially creates particles in the air which causes the light to reflect off of, there for making light shows more effective.

Once the particles per volume reach a certain threshold, the smoke detector is tripped, and the fire alarm goes off.

Plus, if the venue you are at does not allow haze, why would they allow smoke?

You would need a pretty powerful hazer to use outdoors, one that would defiantly be way over your budget.

A fog machine outdoors is an option as you mentioned, but if it's a windy day, you can forget about that.

Also, a bit off topic, but back in DJF 1.0 there was a fairly inexpensive *entry-level* hazer that everyone was recommending. I believe it was around $400, but I can't remember the brand or model. Antari perhaps? Definitely wasn't Chauvet or ADJ. If anyone remembers, I'd love to know.

[Badger]

Archer, the brand you're thinking of is MBT. DJF member "GroovyDJs" was a major proponent of theirs, and would often point out when their hazers were showing up on eBay for low prices.

[Coronaoperator]

Also, a bit off topic, but back in DJF 1.0 there was a fairly inexpensive *entry-level* hazer that everyone was recommending. I believe it was around $400, but I can't remember the brand or model. Antari perhaps? Definitely wasn't Chauvet or ADJ. If anyone remembers, I'd love to know.

The American DJ haze Generator/Antari HZ-100/ MBT Hazers are all the same unit rebranded. Those were the $400 ones recommended.

They are alright for smallish dancefloors, but no way near enough for outdoors. I own one of those units and now have upgraded to the Radiance hazer. WAY brighter beams and the unit can haze a city block (with little to no wind) but is over your budjet. A fogger will still look like fog IMO.

[LiteTrix]

It was the MBT hazer. Pretty sure Antari makes one similar to it.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/MBT-HZ300-DM...ht_1633wt_1398

EDIT: If you go with the MBT/Antari make sure to get the HZ300 its a bit more powerful.

[instinct]

I have this cheap fogger:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chauvet-Hurr...#ht_2667wt_952 (I really like that Ebay seller, so I would recommend buying from them)..


For $150, you get a ton of fog.. I would suggest for outdoors keeping it so it fog frequently in short bursts... Also, it would be good to have a floor fan to disperse the fog...

I also have one of these: http://www.superdj.com/antari-x310-i...-combo-machine - but it's a lot more money... The fog comes out in a finer constant haze.. it's still fog not haze though.. It works even better for outdoors, it has a fan already built in..

[Synaxis]

Archer, the brand you're thinking of is MBT. DJF member "GroovyDJs" was a major proponent of theirs, and would often point out when their hazers were showing up on eBay for low prices.

The American DJ haze Generator/Antari HZ-100/ MBT Hazers are all the same unit rebranded. Those were the $400 ones recommended.

They are alright for smallish dancefloors, but no way near enough for outdoors. I own one of those units and now have upgraded to the Radiance hazer. WAY brighter beams and the unit can haze a city block (with little to no wind) but is over your budjet. A fogger will still look like fog IMO.

It was the MBT hazer. Pretty sure Antari makes one similar to it.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/MBT-HZ300-DM...ht_1633wt_1398

EDIT: If you go with the MBT/Antari make sure to get the HZ300 its a bit more powerful.

Ah, yes. MBT sure sounds familiar! Thanks for the help +Rep!

[b.ill]

I'm DJing outdoors a lot this summer and really like my ground fogger with the ice lid opened up when I'm outside. The fog "erupts" out of the top like a volcano when you set it up like this. Definitely works better than the nozzle units I have. Even when you can't feel a breeze it spreads out pretty fast, and when there is a bit of a wind it hangs in there better.