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alen_p
05-21-2012, 10:42 AM
http://youtu.be/46p937wzAxM

noize_unit
05-21-2012, 12:23 PM
well I'm glad it has a cue button and lights...

Andrew B
05-21-2012, 12:46 PM
So it's an updated DN-SC2000?

DJ Highline
05-21-2012, 01:13 PM
Love new Denon gear....I suspect that this will be a replacement for the DN-S1200 and the S3900's little brother. You will obviously have engine support with the ability to share files and most probably networking. Look to have the I-pad support as well, you can tell because it has the same screen as the 3900. You can also tell that the platter is recessed with the LED ring around it. It has a CD drive in it and it will create waveforms from CD. This should have as close as you can to full native support from Traktor, and a few other tricks that we won't know about until release day. Anyways...looking forward to more info about this one...

alen_p
05-21-2012, 01:21 PM
Not sure, I got it in the e-mail this morning, so I thought to share with you guys...On Denon forums people are still guessing...after analyzing video I can say it is a deck (Cue button and partial waveform wit CD mode)....there is also a brief shot of upfader (which could be pitch control)....all the circulating lights tell me it might actually have still platter (compared to most of Denon decks which feature moving platter)....maybe it's a deck/controller for their DJ software Engine...not sure yet...it also might be a entry CD deck similar to CDJ 400...honestly, it's anyone's guess...

contra
05-21-2012, 11:15 PM
I hope it's a Stanton scs.4dj type product. We need more of those all in one units!!

hoff
05-22-2012, 03:37 PM
looks like a 3900 with touch jogwheel instead of spinning platter.. definitely down if it has advanced HID outta box and denon link for usb sticks ect.

DJ Highline
05-22-2012, 06:43 PM
I highly doubt that it will have HID, Denon is firmly in the Midi camp and I don't see them changing anytime soon...

OONS
05-23-2012, 12:22 PM
It looks to be an all-in-one standalone CD/usb player (with mixer) that also functions as a midi device. This is based on my views of the video and this post on a dj gear site.

http://www.rjshop.nl/Denon-SC2900-Media-Player-en-DJ-Controller/nl/product/28734/#

google translate the text and you'll read

The Denon SC2900 is a media player and DJ controller together, which can be used with all software, and also various play possibilities. For the first time, Denon has very good look at some features that Pioneer also has built in his players, because as we see on the SC 2900 Denon LED ring around the platter, that we recognize the CDJ-2000. Samples can be stored by a sample of the four buttons, also known as hot-offs can be used.

More info soon ...

Think S4 with cd drives and USB slots.

Andrew B
05-23-2012, 12:31 PM
I don't think it has a mixer like an all-in-one. I think it's just a player/controller.

Rick_N
05-23-2012, 01:36 PM
I don't think it has a mixer like an all-in-one. I think it's just a player/controller.

Agreed, I doubt it would be an all in one also. Not sure what the general view is on em but I dont feel theres really a need for an all in one.

hoff
05-23-2012, 01:49 PM
its 100% not.... its a media player and dj controller. it plays media...and functions as a controller.

plus why would denon use the sc- formula and randomly turn it into a mixer? all sc- are decks

hoff
05-23-2012, 04:31 PM
http://www.troll.me/images2/sweet-mother-of-god/sweet-mother-of-god.jpg http://www.sanecore.cn/sanecore/files/pfour/DENON_Engine_SC_2900.jpg

if that's real... omg. cdj-850 vs that? ya right

the blue buttons and LED's match the ones in the vid... screen n stuff too... we shall see

Andrew B
05-23-2012, 04:42 PM
I'm glad they're getting away from spinning platters.

Nick Bike
05-23-2012, 05:31 PM
looks like a cross between a Gemini and the old 5000 unit

hoff
05-23-2012, 10:19 PM
looks like a cross between a Gemini and the old 5000 unit

? I'd say it's the exact same as the 3900 but static jog. Would make production easy too..

Btw, I found that pic on the denon dj forums '29' thread, and both the original and my reply quoting the pic have been removed... Looks like the pic is accurate

JamminDownJD
05-23-2012, 11:02 PM
I was going to pick up the SC3900s, but if this one is Traktor-certified (or better yet, SSL-native!) it may be a game changer.

contra
05-23-2012, 11:22 PM
http://www.troll.me/images2/sweet-mother-of-god/sweet-mother-of-god.jpg http://www.sanecore.cn/sanecore/files/pfour/DENON_Engine_SC_2900.jpg

if that's real... omg. cdj-850 vs that? ya right

the blue buttons and LED's match the ones in the vid... screen n stuff too... we shall see

Oh that's PRETTY!!!

DJNR
05-23-2012, 11:50 PM
Oh that's PRETTY!!!

More pretty lights for DJs to flaunt :lol:

hoff
05-23-2012, 11:54 PM
More pretty lights for DJs to flaunt :lol:

Denons take on the pioneer jog screen with the led wheel is cool. I think it's centered too.. I can see an led direct centre at top, left, right and bottom... It would be dopee if loops are reflected in the ring with red LEDs

contra
05-23-2012, 11:54 PM
hehehehe djnr

JohnXVI
05-24-2012, 04:25 PM
This is actually great! Rotating platters are good and all, but I have Techs for my tactile needs. I love the freedom to be able to put those puppies at an angle and closer to the mixer for better workflow. Not to mention that now they are head-to-head in CDJ territory with the kings of the market, so things are about to change... a lot.

Andrew B
05-24-2012, 09:08 PM
Not to mention that now they are head-to-head in CDJ territory with the kings of the market, so things are about to change... a lot.

But not really.

JohnXVI
05-25-2012, 09:30 AM
But not really.

Not referring to this model, but the future full-sized jog wheel war that will inevitably happen. Before Denon and Pioneer were on totally different markets, now gear comparison can be better assessed.

hoff
05-25-2012, 12:25 PM
But not really.

why assume before it's even out?

main thing to consider is this will probably be around 1k. In that case, you're comparing w the 850 which has no digital out, no link feature, comparable screen, no jog tension adjust, no quantized loops, no cue points, no dump.. not to mention it feels pretty cheap. rekordbox is still garbage too..

how does that not compare? quality isn't an argument anymore with denon, they got their shit together

DJNR
05-25-2012, 12:28 PM
inb4 "denon isn't industry standard guise. PIO 4 LYFE"

DJ Highline
05-25-2012, 12:39 PM
why assume before it's even out?

main thing to consider is this will probably be around 1k. In that case, you're comparing w the 850 which has no digital out, no link feature, comparable screen, no jog tension adjust, no quantized loops, no cue points, no dump.. not to mention it feels pretty cheap. rekordbox is still garbage too..

how does that not compare? quality isn't an argument anymore with denon, they got their shit together

I agree with everything you just said except it should come in between $600-800...the flagship S3900 comes in at a $1000 so this should be cheaper...

hoff
05-25-2012, 12:48 PM
I agree with everything you just said except it should come in between $600-800...the flagship S3900 comes in at a $1000 so this should be cheaper...

well fuck, if that happens there's no doubt I'm getting this. I figured the 3900 vs 2900 naming was to differentiate platter type rather than features after seeing the pic. the 2900 platter looks pretty advanced.. could warrant the price

Andrew B
05-25-2012, 01:23 PM
why assume before it's even out?

main thing to consider is this will probably be around 1k. In that case, you're comparing w the 850 which has no digital out, no link feature, comparable screen, no jog tension adjust, no quantized loops, no cue points, no dump.. not to mention it feels pretty cheap. rekordbox is still garbage too..

how does that not compare? quality isn't an argument anymore with denon, they got their shit together

I wasn't saying it won't compare. I'm saying nothing in the foreseeable future will unseat CDJs from clubs, regardless of quality, features, and price point.

DJNR
05-25-2012, 01:24 PM
I wasn't saying it won't compare. I'm saying nothing in the foreseeable future will unseat CDJs from clubs.

I don't think this at the expense of innovation, but lack of expense by club owners. :P

hoff
05-25-2012, 01:35 PM
I wasn't saying it won't compare. I'm saying nothing in the foreseeable future will unseat CDJs from clubs, regardless of quality, features, and price point.

yeah, this is the unfortunate truth

JohnXVI
05-25-2012, 03:53 PM
I wasn't saying it won't compare. I'm saying nothing in the foreseeable future will unseat CDJs from clubs, regardless of quality, features, and price point.

Which is why I know this model will not shake the world, but it will bring exposure and hopefully a true competitor to the CDJs. When you ask any person what's the cons of Pioneer, they always answer price. Bring a real contender, work on the platform and we will see. Pioneer wasn't always at the top of the hill.

contra
05-26-2012, 03:02 PM
^Very true. I remember when Denon was all that the clubs had around here. Those double deck units were everywhere.

Andrew B
05-26-2012, 03:51 PM
^Very true. I remember when Denon was all that the clubs had around here. Those double deck units were everywhere.

Alongside 1200s. CD players didn't become the standard until the CDJ-1000 came out.

DJ Highline
05-26-2012, 05:54 PM
Alongside 1200s. CD players didn't become the standard until the CDJ-1000 came out.

This is somewhat true...but in contex, you are attributing the CDJ-1000 to making it CDs the standard when it very well could of been the right machine at the right time. What I mean by that is if the CDJ-1000 was released 2 years earlier or later, it may not have done so well...

It was released right as CDs became the main choice of consumers over cassettes and records. Its just like now with the changing of the guard from CDs to "digital". You still find Media players with CD drives...to accommodate the legacy technology.

DJ Bob
05-28-2012, 03:17 PM
This is somewhat true...but in contex, you are attributing the CDJ-1000 to making it CDs the standard when it very well could of been the right machine at the right time. What I mean by that is if the CDJ-1000 was released 2 years earlier or later, it may not have done so well...

It was released right as CDs became the main choice of consumers over cassettes and records. Its just like now with the changing of the guard from CDs to "digital". You still find Media players with CD drives...to accommodate the legacy technology.

being 'the right product at the right time' is surely the very definition of setting the standard, just like 1200's - they took a good many years to become really popular.
the cdj1000 was miles ahead of any cd player on the market when it was released. it actually took several years before djs moved over to it. there was a huge cd vs vinyl debate at the time which cd eventually won but it took a while. the main problem at the time was the severe lack of current music that was available digitally, there was no beatport, itunes or any other commercial outlet.
if anything the cdj1000 was released a bit too early, the industry wasn't quite ready for it.

contra
06-03-2012, 01:36 PM
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/246570_453466004682406_167452209950455_1624071_316 867465_n.jpg
Pics out today...

Tektonix
06-03-2012, 02:27 PM
Im sorry, But it honestly looks like something Fisher Price and Gemini teamed up to make D: As to its capability I hope it delivers, Shall be interesting to see this all fold out

Andrew B
06-03-2012, 03:27 PM
It's hideous! :lol:

djozone
06-03-2012, 04:43 PM
Lots of people aren't gonna dig that chunky light ring...On the other hand lots of people like bright flashy lights!

contra
06-03-2012, 05:10 PM
Gotta admit, I'm a sucker for blue lights

DJ Highline
06-03-2012, 06:19 PM
I'll take 2 please....

Estacy
06-04-2012, 12:38 AM
god what a monstrosity. its like they put Christmas lights around the platter...

roguedna
06-04-2012, 04:30 AM
http://www.djbooth.net/index/dj-equipment/entry/denon-sc2900-revealed/


Translation please ?

http://blog.rjshop.nl/denon-dj-sc2900-media-player-en-dj-controller/

DJ Highline
06-04-2012, 09:15 AM
New Overview video.....this thing is bad ass.....

Native to Traktor and it has slip mode for those that are interested...


http://youtu.be/WTZ6Q__4zzE

JohnXVI
06-04-2012, 11:10 AM
Looks promising! All that at maybe $799-$899 not bad at all.

azarraga053
06-04-2012, 11:30 AM
Promising but... way too ugly. Pioneer will still be seen as professional compared to that...

JohnXVI
06-04-2012, 11:34 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

hoff
06-04-2012, 02:18 PM
I'll take build quality and features over a plastic shell anyday ;)

brichi
06-04-2012, 02:32 PM
I'll take the lightweight plastic shell that still after 6 years has never needed a repair and used weekly, thanks!

the pioneers being plasticky is such an outdated argument, you can build a tank but if the insides and firmware are garbage, doesn't matter. Players nowadays are more about solid programming from the engineers, if the tanks freeze when you hit play, they are useless. If the players sit in a club, who cares if the shell is plastic of metal, even in my case which I carry to 2-3 events every week, I never had once wished Pioneer built a sturdier shell, who cares, its in a protective case or sits in a club

and I agree, the 2900 looks ugly IMO, the 3900 is still where its at with Denon

hoff
06-04-2012, 03:34 PM
well you hit the first of two key parts in my statement, but the second is the most important...

slip, hotcues, quantized autobeat loops, full jog adjust, native traktor support and link.. none of which are found on the 850. this will be cheaper too. (denon has stated this will be cheaper than the 3900 already)

Boomcie
06-04-2012, 04:13 PM
What happened to judging gear based on performance?

Cryder
06-05-2012, 02:35 AM
Get me drunk and put me in front of a computer and I will design something that looks better than that. I'm consistently amazed at what ugly things get greenlit for production these days. Featurewise it looks dope though, not gonna argue that!

Boomcie
06-05-2012, 10:26 AM
What happened to judging gear based on performance?
:stupid:

roguedna
07-15-2012, 02:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iKl1hBBEWY



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cO4do7E-Zo&feature=channel&list=UL