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DJNR
05-14-2012, 02:24 PM
I'm sick of his bullshit. He talks so much smack and is a jerk to everybody on this forum. Similarly, he considers himself qualified to talk shit on other DJs of the forum. I am calling out Atomisk for an Electro House + Progressive house + dubstep battle.

Let's see if you are as good as you say, Atomisk.

Rules:
- 30-45 minute mix
- electro house, progressive house, and dubstep
- no post editing
- no sync (although hes too "pro" not to use it)
- gotta use decks (not ableton for example). Controllers are fine.

Interracial Tea
05-14-2012, 02:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

fuck it. i'll join too. i'll turn on flanger the entire time too.

Marc S
05-14-2012, 02:58 PM
subscribed

drumpusher
05-14-2012, 03:00 PM
I can has enters? I don't play levels though. I play underground house.

g-sep
05-14-2012, 03:04 PM
Just bought 100 shares of Orville popcorn!

Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2

Era 7
05-14-2012, 03:35 PM
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Synergy
05-14-2012, 03:43 PM
This thread is so full of fuckin win I can't contain myself.

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 03:44 PM
Too busy, sorry. I have better things to do than do silly DJ battles on an online forum.

EDIT: Challenge accepted. just got a great motivational talk.
When's this mix due?

PS: I spin on CD players now, I don't sync. lol

Marc S
05-14-2012, 03:49 PM
video mix imo, too easy to fake the beatmatching.

Interracial Tea
05-14-2012, 03:50 PM
Just bought 100 shares of Orville popcorn!

the only way i can picture you looking

http://i.imgur.com/H7Clc.jpg

DJNR
05-14-2012, 03:53 PM
Too busy, sorry. I have better things to do than do silly DJ battles on an online forum.

EDIT: Challenge accepted. Haus just give me a great motivational talk.
When's this mix due?

PS: I spin on CD players now, I don't sync. lol

I have finals for the rest of this week, so I was thinking maybe having the mix due next Saturday (26th). Does that work for you? Also, you agree to the rules?

As for the other people who want to enter, go for it.

Rek_Aviles
05-14-2012, 03:54 PM
Too busy, sorry. I have better things to do than do silly DJ battles on an online forum.

EDIT: Challenge accepted. Haus just give me a great motivational talk.
When's this mix due?




:tdown::hump::rolleyes:http://www.rowdytalk.com/images/smilies/jerk.gif

DJNR
05-14-2012, 03:55 PM
So as of now:
DJNR
Atomisk
drumpusher (although I'm not sure if your genre fits but go ahead :confused:
Interracial Tea

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 03:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

fuck it. i'll join too. i'll turn on flanger the entire time too.

This made my day

DJNR
05-14-2012, 03:59 PM
This made my day

I don't know why, but this was in the relevant videos which also made my day.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fgk4Cd7h6ak

drumpusher
05-14-2012, 04:02 PM
I can swing it to tech house so my mix doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:06 PM
I can swing it to tech house so my mix doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.

I'm cool with that. As long as it sounds similar, cool with me.

Hausgeist
05-14-2012, 04:07 PM
Challenge accepted. just got a great motivational talk.



H_YK9wVK6IQ

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 04:10 PM
I have finals for the rest of this week, so I was thinking maybe having the mix due next Saturday (26th). Does that work for you? Also, you agree to the rules?

As for the other people who want to enter, go for it.

oh dude I'm gonna have my mix up in less than an hour. Let's up the stakes. Loser gets banned?

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 04:12 PM
I don't know why, but this was in the relevant videos which also made my day.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fgk4Cd7h6ak

Dude I know I wanted to post that. That used to be my avatar.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:18 PM
oh dude I'm gonna have my mix up in less than an hour. Let's up the stakes. Loser gets banned?

Upload it whenever you want, it will just need to be up by next Saturday.

The banning is extreme, as I read this forum quite often (look at my posts). The battle is really only serving the purpose of qualifying your skills. If you really want to have stakes (other than bragging rights), just keep posting and I'll let you know if I agree. Keep in mind we have four people participating, so I don't know how "loser gets banned" would work anyways.

Hausgeist
05-14-2012, 04:23 PM
Four way battle? Blah...

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:24 PM
Four way battle? Blah...

Shit, I'll make it two, but you better be voting!

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 04:25 PM
Upload it whenever you want, it will just need to be up by next Saturday.

The banning is extreme, as I read this forum quite often (look at my posts). The battle is really only serving the purpose of qualifying your skills. If you really want to have stakes (other than bragging rights), just keep posting and I'll let you know if I agree. Keep in mind we have four people participating, so I don't know how "loser gets banned" would work anyways.
Oh yeah dude I know, I used to be on DJF a lot... I think I had over 3k posts before the servers went down. As for "loser gets banned", I guess we can make that apply to only us. Or maybe something like "loser gets pittsey's rep"?

PS: You know I'm trolling whenever I talk shit on other DJs right? If you read DJf so much you should probably know this by now haha.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:34 PM
Oh yeah dude I know, I used to be on DJF a lot... I think I had over 3k posts before the servers went down. As for "loser gets banned", I guess we can make that apply to only us. Or maybe something like "loser gets pittsey's rep"?

PS: You know I'm trolling whenever I talk shit on other DJs right? If you read DJf so much you should probably know this by now haha.

The posts seem pretty genuine.

Can the admins even do pittsey rep? We would have to ask one of them for that to work, but I'm okay with that.

Rek_Aviles
05-14-2012, 04:34 PM
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/ocbw/smilies/backpedal.gif
















































:P

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:36 PM
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd194/ocbw/smilies/backpedal.gif


I had to read the .gif name to understand it.

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 04:42 PM
The posts seem pretty genuine.

Lol dude trust me, I know my place. I just act like a dick all day on here - I've been collectively banned for over a year. I grew up on 4chan, trolling is in my blood.

Also, as for what we can use in the rules, it should be changed to simply computer (everything goes, no post editing) or no computer. I feel like that'd make more fair.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:43 PM
Lol dude trust me, I know my place. I just act like a dick all day on here - I've been collectively banned for over a year. I grew up on 4chan, trolling is in my blood.

Well if it is, the battle is still valid. It's not cool to troll people. Similarly, you were pretty dick to the noobs on here who wanted genuine help.

ilya
05-14-2012, 04:43 PM
video mix imo, too easy to fake the beatmatching.

i second this

Nick Bike
05-14-2012, 04:47 PM
4 entries? ffuuu

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:47 PM
i second this

I use Traktor guys :/ I have no way of video mixing.

Nick Bike
05-14-2012, 04:47 PM
I use Traktor guys :/ I have no way of video mixing.

pretty sure they mean record video of u doing the set - not VJ'ing

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:48 PM
Alright, due to people not wanting 4 entries, the battle is just me vs Atomisk.

drumpusher
05-14-2012, 04:48 PM
I'm down for video mixing. For those who think they can't you could do a ustream broadcast and record that. There's ways and means to do anything.

EDIT: If it's just the 2 boys wanting to go at it I'll bow out.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:49 PM
pretty sure they mean record video of u doing the set - not VJ'ing

OH! I'm cool with that.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:51 PM
I'm down for video mixing. For those who think they can't you could do a ustream broadcast and record that. There's ways and means to do anything.

EDIT: If it's just the 2 boys wanting to go at it I'll bow out.


I misunderstood what they meant by video mixing. I thought they meant like Serato Video stuff. I am totally down to spin live.

Concerning entries, people seem to only want Atomisk and I to battle, which I am okay with also.

Synergy
05-14-2012, 04:53 PM
oh dude I'm gonna have my mix up in less than an hour. Let's up the stakes. Loser gets banned?

I'm sure a ton of people would vote against you just to see you banned ;), I know I would. lol.


Alright, due to people not wanting 4 entries, the battle is just me vs Atomisk.

SWEET!

Interracial Tea
05-14-2012, 04:54 PM
fine with me. imma go to sleep then.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 04:57 PM
fine with me. imma go to sleep then.

And vote when the time comes :tup:

Finnish_Fox
05-14-2012, 04:58 PM
:fap:

Ness
05-14-2012, 05:00 PM
Who is Atomisk and what has he done

Synergy
05-14-2012, 05:04 PM
Who is Atomisk and what has he done

http://www.djforums.com/forums/member.php?40-Atomisk


le douche

Finnish_Fox
05-14-2012, 05:07 PM
Hate to say it... but it seems he's already won.

(Not the call-out/battle thing but the getting under your collective skin part.)

DJNR
05-14-2012, 05:07 PM
Hate to say it... but it seems he's already won.

(Not the call-out/battle thing but the getting under your collective skin part.)

I guess if you look at it that way. I really just want to see if he's as good as he claims to be.

Finnish_Fox
05-14-2012, 05:23 PM
I guess if you look at it that way. I really just want to see if he's as good as he claims to be.

For sure... that's a whole 'nother boat.

Kingbob182
05-14-2012, 06:14 PM
Who is Atomisk and what has he done

"Who is your daddy, and what does he do?"

Kingbob182
05-14-2012, 06:15 PM
Voting system for this mix will be:
16 points for use of Flanger
21 points for a mashup of levels
And thats it...

DJNR
05-14-2012, 06:20 PM
Voting system for this mix will be:
16 points for use of Flanger
21 points for a mashup of levels
And thats it...

My whole mix is going to be flanger and beatrolls.

Decebal
05-14-2012, 06:49 PM
I'm sure a ton of people would vote against you just to see you banned ;), I know I would. lol.


You do realize that this is gonna be anonymous right?

joshpan
05-14-2012, 06:55 PM
I'm cool with that. As long as it sounds similar, cool with me.



No offense but DJNR, you sound like a tool. I'm joining the battle. Get ready for my huge 9 incher.

Finnish_Fox
05-14-2012, 07:06 PM
You do realize that this is gonna be anonymous right?

It's probably not anonymous to one of the two people competing. I mean, I'd know my own mix if I heard it.

g-sep
05-14-2012, 07:15 PM
No offense but DJNR, you sound like a tool. I'm joining the battle. Get ready for my huge 9 incher.

Troll face

Hausgeist
05-14-2012, 07:15 PM
You do realize that this is gonna be anonymous right?

Keep it anonymous, as it is supposed to be. None of this vid mix nonsense.


It's probably not anonymous to one of the two people competing. I mean, I'd know my own mix if I heard it.

No voting for your own mix. It ruins the anonymity because people who haven't voted can see that. Besides, winning a battle by your own vote is like kissing your sister.

Finnish_Fox
05-14-2012, 07:20 PM
No voting for your own mix. It ruins the anonymity because people who haven't voted can see that. Besides, winning a battle by your own vote is like kissing your sister.

Was just pointing out that the people involved usually can tell whose mix is whose, particularly in a 2 person battle.

ilya
05-14-2012, 07:28 PM
Keep it anonymous, as it is supposed to be. None of this vid mix nonsense.


screw that, video recording or gtfo.

Interracial Tea
05-14-2012, 07:40 PM
No offense but DJNR, you sound like a tool. I'm joining the battle. Get ready for my huge 9 incher.

hey guys, it's one of atomisk's friends.

Hausgeist
05-14-2012, 07:50 PM
Was just pointing out that the people involved usually can tell whose mix is whose, particularly in a 2 person battle.

Yes, obviously, unless the battle is between a pair of anterograde amnesiacs. I am just saying the battle should be anonymous, as they are supposed to be. Voting on your own sub ruins it.

Interracial Tea
05-14-2012, 07:52 PM
then don't count it?

Hausgeist
05-14-2012, 08:25 PM
then don't count it?

My point was for maintaining anonymity. It used to be that the poll results showed exactly who voted for each sub. But looking at some battle polls now, that seems to have have changed, which imo is a good thing.

Okay, disregard the bit about voting for yourself. :smash:

DJNR
05-14-2012, 08:34 PM
Okay, disregard the bit about voting for yourself. :smash:

:lol:

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 08:52 PM
I guess if you look at it that way. I really just want to see if he's as good as he claims to be.

Oh I don't claim to be that good, I just think I'm better than someone who puts flanger over their master bus for an entire set.


hey guys, it's one of atomisk's friends.

I don't know this kid. And I'm out if it's video recorded. Obviously public opinion will be with DJNR and that'd completely destroy the purpose of this battle and turn it into a popularity contest.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 09:12 PM
Well Hausgeist already said it couldn't be video recorded. I don't care if it is or isn't to be honest. The video bit was really just to make sure that neither of us cheated in any way.

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 10:29 PM
Well Hausgeist already said it couldn't be video recorded. I don't care if it is or isn't to be honest. The video bit was really just to make sure that neither of us cheated in any way.

Eh well you have my word I won't cheat. Are we doing just CDs now or what? I feel like it'd be much more fair to say no computers in any way (besides uploading and recording).

ilya
05-14-2012, 10:39 PM
i propose you two send the video recordings to a third party for verification and upload after the battle concludes. loser gets a 30 day ban. :tup:

Hausgeist
05-14-2012, 10:44 PM
Well Hausgeist already said it couldn't be video recorded.

I had no idea I got it like that! Hot dog! :lol:

Honestly, it is just a suggestion. IMO, anonymity is essential in these sort of battles.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 11:11 PM
Eh well you have my word I won't cheat. Are we doing just CDs now or what? I feel like it'd be much more fair to say no computers in any way (besides uploading and recording).

Well unfortunately I don't own CD players and I use Traktor as my medium. You can use it too if you would like. If I remember correctly you use/used Traktor anyways.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 11:12 PM
By the way, it's probably a better idea spending time on your mix rather than posting on my fan page:

http://i.imgur.com/L6OF2.png

Neophyte
05-14-2012, 11:18 PM
http://9thcivic.com/gallery/albums/post/Popcorn_02_Stephen_Colbert.gif

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 11:22 PM
Well unfortunately I don't own CD players and I use Traktor as my medium. You can use it too if you would like. If I remember correctly you use/used Traktor anyways.

No, I don't use Traktor anymore. CDs vs. Computer would be so unfair.

Also, if you have a problem with the way I act, talk to me. Challenging me to some silly online DJ battle isn't gonna change shit. If you think that conflict will get you the changes you want, you're obviously much more immature than you claim I am.

ilya
05-14-2012, 11:27 PM
No, I don't use Traktor anymore. CDs vs. Computer would be so unfair.

i totally agree with this. and hey, you know, given that you're on cds and he's on traktor you better make sure he's following the manual beatmatching rules too. both of you upload videos and send it to an independent third party for verification or stfu.

loser gets 30 day ban. comon fellas get it on!

DJNR
05-14-2012, 11:28 PM
No, I don't use Traktor anymore. CDs vs. Computer would be so unfair.

Also, if you have a problem with the way I act, talk to me. Challenging me to some silly online DJ battle isn't gonna change shit.

So you're telling me you won't battle me unless I don't use Traktor? I don't really see how that would be unfair, especially considering that majority of the DJs who use a DVS are worse off than those who posses the skills to use CDJs alone. I would see if I can get my hands on CDJs, but that might take a little while as I only know one person who owns a pair and he lives about an hour away.

The point of this battle isn't to settle any personal dispute we've had, because in reality we haven't had any. The point of the battle is instead to see whether or not you are as skilled as you act. In response to your silly DJ battle comment, posting on my facebook isn't going to solve anything either.

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 11:28 PM
i totally agree with this. and hey, you know, given that you're on cds and he's on traktor you better make sure he's following the manual beatmatching rules too. both of you upload videos and send it to an independent third party for verification or stfu.

loser gets 30 day ban. comon fellas get it on!

I'm down for 30 day ban. However the video doesn't solve any problems. It'd still be very easy for NR to fake beatmatching or work around all the rules we're trying to set up. As for CDJs vs. Traktor - I want to stick to one medium because using different mediums brings out different skills. Part of your claim against me is that I have no skill and rely on Traktor to mix for me. I believe that sticking to CD players would bring out the best fundamentals of both of us, and not give us the option to rely on software to cover our mistakes. tl;dr CD players = better way to define the skill of a DJ.

And if this battle isn't to determine a personal dispute, I'll just upload a video to youtube right now or stream on stickam to satisfy you. And again, please read your wall. Message me on facebook or skype (adf5145), I'd like to talk to you. As much as I troll, I'm also a very understanding and reasonable person - I'd like to discuss your thoughts of my actions on this board, and work towards a solution for the both of us.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 11:30 PM
i totally agree with this. and hey, you know, given that you're on cds and he's on traktor you better make sure he's following the manual beatmatching rules too. both of you upload videos and send it to an independent third party for verification or stfu.

loser gets 30 day ban. comon fellas get it on!

Verification of beat matching? Then people vote on the best mix right? I'm okay with that, we just gotta ask an admin if that's okay to do. This battle is becoming quite an ordeal, I don't know why it can't just proceed normally like the other ones.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 11:31 PM
I'm down for 30 day ban. However the video doesn't solve any problems. It'd still be very easy for NR to fake beatmatching or work around all the rules we're trying to set up.

And if this battle isn't to determine a personal dispute, I'll just upload a video to youtube right now or stream on stickam to satisfy you. And again, please read your wall. Message me on facebook or skype (adf5145), I'd like to talk to you.

I can record my screen for 45 minutes. There isn't really a way to fake it then.

ilya
05-14-2012, 11:31 PM
I'm down for 30 day ban. However the video doesn't solve any problems. It'd still be very easy for NR to fake beatmatching or work around all the rules we're trying to set up.

nope it's quite simple actually. you record your cdjs as is. if he's using dvs, he records himself doing so and plays with the laptop off to the side or some shit. if he's looking off screen we know what's going on.

let's get ready to rumble.

g-sep
05-14-2012, 11:34 PM
So am I going to have to order this on Pay-Per View or what? This is like "DJNR-Atomisk 24/7"

DJNR
05-14-2012, 11:34 PM
Atomisk I messaged you on skype.

Atomisk
05-14-2012, 11:35 PM
nope it's quite simple actually. you record your cdjs as is. if he's using dvs, he records himself doing so and plays with the laptop off to the side or some shit. if he's looking off screen we know what's going on.

let's get ready to rumble.

That's not what it's about, one could very easily completely re-do their set in Live or any other DAW and perfect their transitions.

DJNR
05-14-2012, 11:36 PM
That's not what it's about, one could very easily completely re-do their set in Live or any other DAW and perfect their transitions.

I thought the issue was syncing, not having a visual aid.

SeanGarfola
05-14-2012, 11:39 PM
My body is ready

DJNR
05-14-2012, 11:48 PM
My body is ready

You, I like you. Making an account just to post in this thread :tup:

Hausgeist
05-15-2012, 12:03 AM
This battle is becoming quite an ordeal, I don't know why it can't just proceed normally like the other ones.

Ditto. Just record the mixes and post them as per usual. :shrug:

DJNR
05-15-2012, 12:04 AM
Alright, so after talking to Atomisk over skype, we have agreed:

1) There will be no video of any sort. The idea doesn't solve any significant issues other than beat matching which in reality is only a fraction of what makes a good DJ.

2) I am allowed to use Traktor.

Hausgeist
05-15-2012, 12:05 AM
Right on. :tup:

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 12:06 AM
DJNR and I are currently negotiating a peace treaty. But the battle is still on.

Attix
05-15-2012, 12:08 AM
Best thread 2012.

DJArmani
05-15-2012, 12:11 AM
:popcorn::popcorn::eek3dance:

This is going to be one of the best battles on DJF.

Interracial Tea
05-15-2012, 12:30 AM
My body is ready

hey another one of atomisk's friends.

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 12:38 AM
hey another one of atomisk's friends.

Oh dude you gettin mad cuz I'm a hype machine?

DJNR
05-15-2012, 12:50 AM
Ditto. Just record the mixes and post them as per usual. :shrug:

That's the plan :lol:

oliosky
05-15-2012, 12:52 AM
Couldn't be fucked reading the last nine pages. Quick rundown please.

DJNR
05-15-2012, 12:59 AM
Couldn't be fucked reading the last nine pages. Quick rundown please.

That last 9 pages are full of rubbish really. The main page with the rules are all you need to know.

oliosky
05-15-2012, 01:04 AM
So is Atomisk still a bit of a portly douchebag? Thats all i really want to know.

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 01:05 AM
So is Atomisk still a bit of a portly douchebag? Thats all i really want to know.

Obviously, He's the worst thing since Zrule.

oliosky
05-15-2012, 01:07 AM
:lol: He does seem to have found a little bit of self deprecating humour though...

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 01:09 AM
:lol: He does seem to have found a little bit of self deprecating humour though...

Well I mean yeah, I just act like an asshole on here because the consequences are much lower than being an asshole in the real world!

DJNR
05-15-2012, 01:15 AM
So is Atomisk still a bit of a portly douchebag? Thats all i really want to know.

On the forums, yes. That's all I'm concerned with. I have nothing against him as a person.

oliosky
05-15-2012, 01:17 AM
On the forums, yes. That's all I'm concerned with. I have nothing against him as a person.

I do. He plays shit music. if that isn't an indicator of character then i dont know what is.

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 01:26 AM
I do. He plays shit music. if that isn't an indicator of character then i dont know what is.

Really? What kind of shit music am I playing?

oliosky
05-15-2012, 01:30 AM
http://www.djforums.com/forums/showthread.php?211-Badass-Electro-tracks&highlight=

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 01:31 AM
http://www.djforums.com/forums/showthread.php?211-Badass-Electro-tracks&highlight=
Lol dude you troll harder than me. I'm not even gonna waste my time with a clown like you.

DJNR
05-15-2012, 01:37 AM
http://www.djforums.com/forums/showthread.php?211-Badass-Electro-tracks&highlight=

But..but... I'm in that thread :(

Edit: I guess Atomisk and I both play shit music.

oliosky
05-15-2012, 01:42 AM
Lol dude you troll harder than me. I'm not even gonna waste my time with a clown like you.

:lol: Whats that stuff about being an asshole online you were saying?

Don't worry gents, I'll have a listen when these are posted up.

DJNR
05-15-2012, 01:43 AM
Don't worry gents, I'll have a listen when these are posted up.

Thank ya sir! :tup:

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 01:48 AM
But..but... I'm in that thread :(

Edit: I guess Atomisk and I both play shit music.
Hey at least you don't play SHM. :P
Greyhound is a great song!
inb4 I get executed

DJNR
05-15-2012, 01:49 AM
Hey at least you don't play SHM. :P
Greyhound is a great song!
inb4 I get executed

Prepare yourself. Build a bunker, buy a machine gun, and get ready to shoot down the masses.

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 01:54 AM
Prepare yourself. Build a bunker, buy a machine gun, and get ready to shoot down the masses.
One last post before I enter said bunker. Maybe I'll get bonus points for attracting a larger horde.


DAVID GUETTA #1!!!
http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/DJ/Oct11/guetta-DJ-no.1-660-80.jpg

DJNR
05-15-2012, 02:14 AM
One last post before I enter said bunker. Maybe I'll get bonus points for attracting a larger horde.


DAVID GUETTA #1!!!
http://cdn.mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/DJ/Oct11/guetta-DJ-no.1-660-80.jpg

:lol:

alazydj
05-15-2012, 04:01 AM
That's not what it's about, one could very easily completely re-do their set in Live or any other DAW and perfect their transitions.



This is really only feasible with Serato Bridge




:school:

Phi
05-15-2012, 04:25 AM
May the best DJ win. :D

Hygro
05-15-2012, 05:43 AM
Ilya, you haven't seen Atomisk mix CDs on faderwave :confused:

The whole premise of this thread is bizarre. But I'm down for the battle as the hype got big.

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 06:16 AM
This is really only feasible with Serato Bridge
:school:
Not at all. All you have to do is line up the original mix in Ableton, and recreate it (fx, transitions and all) in Live, where you can adjust all the fades and cuts in the automation clips, thus making the mix "perfect". It looks like this:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/p480x480/179699_436058679755471_177323752295633_1550280_500 228716_n.jpg
(Yes, I do my monthly mixes in Live to preserve audio quality. All my battles & sets when I play out are 100% on the fly on CDs)

:school:

EDIT: Guys someone negged me. They said I was full of shit. I'm so sad :( I'm thinking about withdrawing from this battle and rethinking my life. :cry:

JuxtaPoser
05-15-2012, 06:31 AM
I read the first 9 or 10 pages then skipped to the end. Now on page 12, has something actually been agreed upon/confirmed yet? Interested to hear both these guys mix/see them get banned for 30 days :P

Synergy
05-15-2012, 07:06 AM
Not at all. All you have to do is line up the original mix in Ableton, and recreate it (fx, transitions and all) in Live, where you can adjust all the fades and cuts in the automation clips, thus making the mix "perfect". It looks like this:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/p480x480/179699_436058679755471_177323752295633_1550280_500 228716_n.jpg
(Yes, I do my monthly mixes in Live to preserve audio quality. All my battles & sets when I play out are 100% on the fly on CDs)

:school:

EDIT: Guys someone negged me. They said I was full of shit. I'm so sad :( I'm thinking about withdrawing from this battle and rethinking my life. :cry:

what audio quality to preserve? as long as u use quality tracks there is no "audio quality" to preserve.

Kingbob182
05-15-2012, 07:09 AM
What do you guys think of using the Flanger in a mix?
I think it adds to the build up of tracks but sometimes too much can be overkill.

Synergy
05-15-2012, 07:48 AM
flanger is an effect that ppl used when the pioneer mixer was popular and it got wayyyyyyyy overused. it sucks, i hate it and will never use it. i think it sucks.

alazydj
05-15-2012, 08:13 AM
Not at all. All you have to do is line up the original mix in Ableton, and recreate it....

EDIT: Guys someone negged me. They said I was full of shit. I'm so sad :( I'm thinking about withdrawing from this battle and rethinking my life. :cry:



I meant that it's only feasible if you're recording a video of you doing the mix live. In that case you could use Serato Bridge to record the playback into an Ableton file to perfect after the fact. That way you still have a video proving you did the mix AND you have a perfected mix.

I've used the bridge with my 57SL and it works fine...but the Ableton file is MASSIVE and takes up ever ounce of RAM that my 2 year old MBP has. It's a cool idea, but it's far too taxing and is really only useful if you're in a rush and need to perfect a mix for radio or other commercial ventures.

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 08:18 AM
what audio quality to preserve? as long as u use quality tracks there is no "audio quality" to preserve.

Running the tracks through the whole mixer signal chain degrades quality, as well as un normalizes some of the peaks. When you can do it like this is practically like having the original wavs in your mix. It's also much easy to control peak loudness. I'm too lazy to explain it all right now.

EDIT: Here's the difference in peak levels between a mix done in Ableton and a mix recorded in Traktor. (inb4 clipping hard on top, I know for a fact everything is hitting 0 db)
http://i45.tinypic.com/9bkok9.png

Kingbob182
05-15-2012, 08:22 AM
Running the tracks through the whole mixer signal chain degrades quality, as well as un normalizes some of the peaks. When you can do it like this is practically like having the original wavs in your mix.

This, some people dont realise how much quality is lost each time you plug it into a different box. when ts going through cdj to mixer to effect machine to laptop mic/line in, you're ynot going to get anything near the quality of what Atomisk is saying.

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 09:42 AM
This, some people dont realise how much quality is lost each time you plug it into a different box. when ts going through cdj to mixer to effect machine to laptop mic/line in, you're ynot going to get anything near the quality of what Atomisk is saying.

Exactly. The issue isn't just the peaks, but the fact that each mixer processes sound different and HAS to change the sound. Take your favorite song, play it through your mixer, record it, and listen to it again on your computer (Through the line out, NOT running through your audio interface and mixer). Cross reference it with the original recording. You'll be amazed. Even top quality DJ mixers will change the sound in some way.

Kingbob182
05-15-2012, 09:56 AM
it's kinda like downloadng a track in 320k, ulploading it to youtube, converting that to mp3, downloading it again, uploading that to soundcloud, ripping that and then holding your phone up to you speaker to record audio an expecting it to still be 320k

hoff
05-15-2012, 10:10 AM
k can this just fucking happen plz! im all outta popcorn already!

hoff
05-15-2012, 10:10 AM
https://whyweprotest.net/asset-proxy/2e1b7c80231f739b077bee780554df74f7114b45/687474703a2f2f7777772e66616972666178756e6465726772 6f756e642e636f6d2f666f72756d2f66696c652e7068703f34 302c66696c653d33333131352c66696c656e616d653d506f70 636f726e2e676966/http://www.fairfaxunderground.com/forum/file.php%3F40,file%3D33115,filename%3DPopcorn.gif

did too much of this

ben mills
05-15-2012, 12:44 PM
video mix imo, too easy to fake the beatmatching.

Great idea. In general, I think all battles should be video mixes - you can tell a lot more by watching and listening than by just listening.

This holds more true for deck/manual beatmatch guys, perhaps.

Gnozis
05-15-2012, 12:52 PM
+1 for video mix. I remember on V1.0 Nick Bike and other guy did a video mix battle and it was epic.

DJNR
05-15-2012, 01:24 PM
As I said before, Atomisk and I already agreed to no video recording. It doesn't preserve the anonymous nature that battles are supposed to have.

edit: Similarly, people could count us out of a vote simply for spite.

Nick Bike
05-15-2012, 01:50 PM
too much posting not enough mixing

Interracial Tea
05-15-2012, 02:12 PM
if anyone cares, my nap last night was amazing.

Finnish_Fox
05-15-2012, 02:19 PM
if anyone cares, my nap last night was amazing.

I care. :fap:






































:uhoh:

DJNR
05-15-2012, 02:22 PM
too much posting not enough mixing

I will have my mix up by next Saturday. Finals week here.

RDRCK
05-15-2012, 02:29 PM
30 day ban!
30 day ban!
30 day ban!
30 day ban!

Funkyfader
05-15-2012, 03:05 PM
Came here for battle ended up reading 12 pages about video mixing,naps and traktor

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 03:35 PM
30 day ban!
30 day ban!
30 day ban!
30 day ban!

Nah DJNR and I talked about that and I think we're cool now. No big ban.

DJNR
05-15-2012, 03:38 PM
Nah DJNR and I talked about that and I think we're cool now. No big ban.

+1. I don't really care THAT much.

RDRCK
05-15-2012, 03:52 PM
30 day ban?

DJNR
05-15-2012, 03:59 PM
30 day ban?

No thanks

drumpusher
05-15-2012, 05:01 PM
Exactly. The issue isn't just the peaks, but the fact that each mixer processes sound different and HAS to change the sound. Take your favorite song, play it through your mixer, record it, and listen to it again on your computer (Through the line out, NOT running through your audio interface and mixer). Cross reference it with the original recording. You'll be amazed. Even top quality DJ mixers will change the sound in some way.


it's kinda like downloadng a track in 320k, ulploading it to youtube, converting that to mp3, downloading it again, uploading that to soundcloud, ripping that and then holding your phone up to you speaker to record audio an expecting it to still be 320k

No Kingbob, you're comparing colouring to generation loss. Just no. :facepalm:

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 05:09 PM
No Kingbob, you're comparing colouring to generation loss. Just no. :facepalm:

Ehhh yeah but it still gets the point across for people who don't quiet understand how audio works.

drumpusher
05-15-2012, 05:12 PM
You f***ing arrogant little khants. :argh:

DannyAK
05-15-2012, 05:20 PM
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/4/2/128831544594487792.jpg

Gnozis
05-15-2012, 05:39 PM
You f***ing arrogant little khants. :argh:

http://i.imgur.com/Yyf5Y.gif

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 07:05 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Yyf5Y.gif

My jimmies are so unrustled.

oliosky
05-15-2012, 07:38 PM
Running the tracks through the whole mixer signal chain degrades quality, as well as un normalizes some of the peaks. When you can do it like this is practically like having the original wavs in your mix. It's also much easy to control peak loudness. I'm too lazy to explain it all right now.

EDIT: Here's the difference in peak levels between a mix done in Ableton and a mix recorded in Traktor. (inb4 clipping hard on top, I know for a fact everything is hitting 0 db)
http://i45.tinypic.com/9bkok9.png

stop running shit so hot then?

Gnozis
05-15-2012, 07:42 PM
My jimmies are so unrustled.

http://menversus.com/images/bertstare.jpg

Oh lawd, it all makes sense now. You're one cheeky kunt mate I swear.

Synergy
05-15-2012, 08:11 PM
Running the tracks through the whole mixer signal chain degrades quality, as well as un normalizes some of the peaks. When you can do it like this is practically like having the original wavs in your mix. It's also much easy to control peak loudness. I'm too lazy to explain it all right now.

EDIT: Here's the difference in peak levels between a mix done in Ableton and a mix recorded in Traktor. (inb4 clipping hard on top, I know for a fact everything is hitting 0 db)
http://i45.tinypic.com/9bkok9.png

you just hard limit and add normalization to the file...and its fixed. you can always fix volume issues.

Atomisk
05-15-2012, 09:16 PM
stop running shit so hot then?

you just hard limit and add normalization to the file...and its fixed. you can always fix volume issues.
:facepalm:
C'mon guys.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/249/843/7e8.jpg

Phi
05-15-2012, 09:58 PM
Ok, just shoot video and send it to each other. You aren't voting so Automisk and DJNR can watch each others video to prove no one is cheating but still remain anonymous to the voters, and I won't judge either too harshly for a little loss in quality due to understandable circumstances.

DJNR
05-15-2012, 10:04 PM
For the last time, there will be no video segment.

drumpusher
05-15-2012, 11:18 PM
Take this condescending, patronising, 'Guys I r jus trollin' when corrected pulling little dickhead down DJNR.

oliosky
05-15-2012, 11:22 PM
Looking forward to seeing teh videos. If only just to see how fat Atomisk has got lately :love:

DJNR
05-15-2012, 11:24 PM
Looking forward to seeing teh videos.

http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/133574353600.png

Interracial Tea
05-15-2012, 11:40 PM
this thread has lost all meaning

Kingbob182
05-15-2012, 11:42 PM
you just hard limit and add normalization to the file...and its fixed. you can always fix volume issues.

volume does not equal quality. increasing it will do nothing

DJNR
05-15-2012, 11:54 PM
this thread has lost all meaning

In fairness, people won't be voting in this thread anyways.

mantis
05-16-2012, 02:23 AM
you guys sure know how to hype things up. I should hire both of you for my events. Cant wait to see the videos

oliosky
05-16-2012, 02:23 AM
yeah man. these videos are gonna be sooo dope.

Synergy
05-16-2012, 07:19 AM
you just hard limit and add normalization to the file...and its fixed. you can always fix volume issues.

no because thats what is done with the mastering on the first track you have shown in ableton. there is no other way to get things flat like that across the top, just because it fills the screen, doesnt mean its quality. :)

Lionman
05-16-2012, 08:45 AM
less talky talky





moar mixy mixy

hoff
05-16-2012, 10:53 AM
yeah man. these videos are gonna be sooo dope.

make em funny. dj in a sock like old skool chilis or something lol

on another note, cus this thread is dominating the battles section, vote on dis battle!!! http://www.djforums.com/forums/showthread.php?7470-Hoff-vs-G-Sep-Bassy-Tech-Deep-Battle

^^^ will rep whoever votes

Interracial Tea
05-16-2012, 11:20 AM
In fairness, people won't be voting in this thread anyways.

this battle has lost all of its meaning.

Atomisk
05-16-2012, 01:37 PM
volume does not equal quality.
You know nothing about digital audio, do you?
EDIT: I'm gonna correct you so you don't make another ignorant post.
1) There is a difference between peak levels and quality loss. Mixing in Live does two things: a) Eliminates changes in peak levels between songs and b) Gets rid of colouring and noise from the signal chain.

Looking forward to seeing teh videos. If only just to see how fat Atomisk has got lately :love:
mad cuz im a d1 college athlete? mad mad mad mad mad.
http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac303/elfprincessarcher/morganfreemanhemad.jpg

Take this condescending, patronising, 'Guys I r jus trollin' when corrected pulling little dickhead down DJNR.
:facepalm: read the thread bro. That's not what this is about.

Ok, just shoot video and send it to each other. You aren't voting so Automisk and DJNR can watch each others video to prove no one is cheating but still remain anonymous to the voters, and I won't judge either too harshly for a little loss in quality due to understandable circumstances.
Jesus christ dude pay attention that entire post had no relevance to the thread.

Interracial Tea
05-16-2012, 02:56 PM
:facepalm: read the thread bro. That's not what this is about.

nah, that's what this is about. you just somehow turned this into a 'HEY LOOK EVERYBODY I KIND OF KNOW ABOUT AUDIO QUALITY EVEN THOUGH THAT HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THIS BATTLE LOL I'M SUCH A TROLL'


I'm sick of his bullshit. He talks so much smack and is a jerk to everybody on this forum. Similarly, he considers himself qualified to talk shit on other DJs of the forum. I am calling out Atomisk for an Electro House + Progressive house + dubstep battle.


edit: you can still be fat even if you're a d1 athlete

oliosky
05-16-2012, 03:19 PM
Holy shit. A D1 college athlete!
















Does not know what a d1 college athlete is.

BurntToast
05-16-2012, 03:42 PM
What sport and position do you play, Atomisk?

oliosky
05-16-2012, 03:48 PM
I'm a D1 College athlete is gonna be the new buzzword around here

gr2daover
05-16-2012, 04:30 PM
If i remeber right he plays rugby?

Atomisk
05-16-2012, 05:54 PM
I'm a D1 College athlete is gonna be the new buzzword around here
zPjUsu2-QMQ
44k a year in tuition you mad you mad you mad

Atomisk
05-16-2012, 05:56 PM
zPjUsu2-QMQ
44k a year in tuition you mad you mad you mad


nah, that's what this is about. you just somehow turned this into a 'HEY LOOK EVERYBODY I KIND OF KNOW ABOUT AUDIO QUALITY EVEN THOUGH THAT HAS NO RELEVANCE TO THIS BATTLE LOL I'M SUCH A TROLL'
edit: you can still be fat even if you're a d1 athlete

Holy shit. A D1 college athlete!
Does not know what a d1 college athlete is.


What sport and position do you play, Atomisk?


I'm a D1 College athlete is gonna be the new buzzword around here


If i remeber right he plays rugby?
http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu307/Mr_Support_gunner/Everyones_getting_mad.jpg

oliosky
05-16-2012, 05:58 PM
You're a D1 college athlete bra. That's tight fool. Let's hit the showers.

http://www.thenccaa.org/images/Convention/09%20SpMin%20DI.jpg

JuxtaPoser
05-16-2012, 06:09 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/mkypsy.png

BONUS:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2rvy0ci.png

oliosky
05-16-2012, 06:14 PM
:lol: I'm probably still mad, but thats pretty funny to someone who isn't a D1 College athlete.

Divercity
05-16-2012, 06:17 PM
What is a D1? O.o

oliosky
05-16-2012, 06:21 PM
Digico make a D1 console. Thats probably it. He knows heaps about sound and stuff hey. 44k in free tuition bra.

http://www.gearsourceeurope.com/storage/StockImages/reg_52ED18DC-19B9-D416-44E9D576C188FC25.jpg

Hausgeist
05-16-2012, 06:52 PM
http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/a415/DJ_Hausgeist/drinkthatjuice.gif

M!TCH
05-16-2012, 07:18 PM
You bastards. #175 posts I read and the best post on here is tea saying this battle has lost all meaning.

People who are commenting on recording and having 3rd party verify was just to preserve integrity of each others sets. Not everyone has to see the videos. Stop whining, do the damn mixes, let us vote, and ban the loser :D

mr.smashy
05-16-2012, 08:40 PM
This thread is so fucking worthless.

Interracial Tea
05-16-2012, 09:31 PM
This thread is so fucking worthless.

since both of them have weaseled out of battling, we might as well turn this into a circlejerk for d1 athletes.

oliosky
05-16-2012, 10:02 PM
What are there like six people who play rugby in the USA? Amazing achievement picking up a scholarship :lol: Bet those other five applicants are pissed.






Cue some other lame mad meme jpg

drumpusher
05-16-2012, 10:30 PM
When did pictures replace a sharp tongue and a quick wit anyway? Makes you wonder what the fuck Manu did before broadband. :P

oliosky
05-16-2012, 10:33 PM
When did pictures replace a sharp tongue and a quick wit anyway? Makes you wonder what the fuck Manu did before broadband. :P

Something involving soft cheese and surrendering I would guess.

DJNR
05-16-2012, 10:35 PM
since both of them have weaseled out of battling, we might as well turn this into a circlejerk for d1 athletes.

What are you talking about? THE BATTLE IS STILL HAPPENING

The reason this thread has lost its meaning is because everyone turned this thread into a shit-show featuring your own spite against Atomisk. If you have a problem with it, stop posting dumb stuff and stop feeding the troll.

Let me reiterate: I am in the midst of finals week, I will have a mix up NEXT Saturday, there will be no video mix.

Atomisk
05-17-2012, 12:04 AM
Mods, Can we please close this topic? I really hope DJNR will agree with me - Nothing productive has come out of this topic in the last 18 pages. The only constructive conversation relevant to this battle was in DJNR's OP and our talks via IM. Now it's basically just everyone getting mad cuz I'm troll level 9001.

oliosky
05-17-2012, 12:10 AM
Good call Andy