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ksmalk08
05-05-2012, 08:22 PM
So, my main rig consisting of QSC K12's and JBL VRX918SP for LF w/processors etc... is too big.

I am moving to a Caribbean island for two+ years (not joking) to go to school and it isn't going to be able to come with me for more reasons than one.

I need something that I CAN, however, take down there with me. The music simply can't stop.

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Purposes: Pre-recorded Music playback in small rooms, dorm or lounge sized from a consumer level device. Maybe some outdoor music playback on beach for personal or very small crowds.

Size: It needs to fit either on the plane down with me in bags that are of the proper size for a flight, along with a lot of other essentials. Or - it may be shipped down there in plastic crates, which again are not large and would have to not take up room from other living essentials.

Voltage/AC Current: It would be ideal (though I can always buy a transformer) to have a built in voltage switch as the island I am going to has 120V/230V mixed.

Price: It needs to be cheap, because it it simply not worth it for me to have invested in something that will get beat to shit for non-paying situations. $300 roughly. A qsc K8 would be ideal, but just not worth that price for me... otherwise I'd just ship my K12's.

Durable: This is going to be my only system down on the island, it needs to survive heat, and extended use for lounge parties etc... I don't want it to fail on me because there are no replacements down there.

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So Here are some of my options, I could probably fit two of the 5" driver sized monitor-esque speakers, or one 8" driver sized speaker:

-- A single Proel Flash8A, no voltage switch, about $320
-- A single Yamaha MSR100, no voltage switch, about $300
-- A single db Technologies Cromo 8, no voltage switch, about $300
-- A single Yorkville CX80P, Yes voltage switch, about $250
-- Two db Tech K70's, Yes voltage switch, about $400 pair
-- Two Proel Flash5A's, Yes voltage switch, about $380 pair
-- Two Yorkville C120P's, no voltage switch, about $350 pair

I'm liking the Yorkville CX80P at this point, it has a voltage switch, I like the price, and Yorkville is known to be pretty bulletproof in terms of their reliability, I think I could trust it as being the only piece of pro gear I would have there.
the downsides to it is that there doesn't appear to be any limiting or driver protection/processing built into it like some of the other models. The rear panel is pretty basic, lacking even an led clip indicator.

http://www.yorkville.com/products.asp?type=29&cat=48&id=345

Thoughts? What Am I missing here?

Al Poulin
05-05-2012, 09:48 PM
These would be my choice for a tiny pair of powered speakers under 300$ :

http://www.samsontech.com/samson/products/pa-cabinets/auro/aurod208/

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Don't expect much bass of course, but the overall sound quality is really surprising! The 10s are noticeably better low frequency wise but a little bigger. You might in fact be able to do a pair of 10s however - which I would recommend simlpy for the fuller sound. They're really quite compact. I really like the sound of the Auro cabs in general considering their price point. Yes, that is my hand when I got the chance to test the tiny 8s a few months ago. Combined with my LS720P, they could probably handle small occasions.

Within your price point, I don't think you'll find anything bulleproof or extremely performing, but I think common sense goes a long way in making something electronic last longer : using it within its limits and not expecting it to do what it can't be expected to. Having a pair will at least leave you with one if one goes down. The Auros also have a bass and treble control which can be convenient. I've always found those small Yorkville cabs TOO bare bones for me. I mean a single TONE knob that goes from dark to bright? Geez, how much more could it cost for seperate bass and treble knobs? the CX80P looks OK other than that, but the 120Ps are really too weak (101DB max?)

Al

windspeed36
05-05-2012, 11:46 PM
A voltage transformer may not work if the cycles don't match. For example if your speaker is 120V 60Hz it may not work with a transformer for 240v 50hz

Incognito
05-05-2012, 11:55 PM
What island are you going to? You may be OK for voltage depending on your destination.

ksmalk08
05-06-2012, 02:59 AM
You might in fact be able to do a pair of 10s however

Having a pair will at least leave you with one if one goes down.

I've always found those small Yorkville cabs TOO bare bones for me. I mean a single TONE knob that goes from dark to bright? Geez, how much more could it cost for seperate bass and treble knobs? the CX80P looks OK other than that, but the 120Ps are really too weak (101DB max?)

Al

A pair of 10's would be more than what my luggage could handle - as it is with a single 8 I would be sacrificing some other essentials. In general, I am going to have to sacrifice a lot here with the sound and I am fully aware of that.

Good point about having a pair, however none of my uses for this speaker are going to be mission-critical kind of stuff. If it fails, well, no one is paying me for listening to music in my room (where I envision a good amount of its use), so its not a big deal - I just don't get to listen to music with a decent system.

Yeah I know what you mean about barebones there - that "tone" knob is almost kinda funny. I mean how much more costly would a 3 band EQ have been for them to put in? No limit LED? come on now...

In terms of the Samson - I'll consider it. Just looking at it from a brand reputability perspective though, I think I'd take the Yorkville. The Samson has more balls/whistles although it does lack the voltage switch.

ksmalk08
05-06-2012, 03:02 AM
A voltage transformer may not work if the cycles don't match. For example if your speaker is 120V 60Hz it may not work with a transformer for 240v 50hz

Good point here.

You are talking about a scenario where I would use an external voltage transformer right? or are you talking about the internal voltage selector of the speaker cabinet not being compatible with both 50 and 60Hz

ksmalk08
05-06-2012, 03:10 AM
What island are you going to? You may be OK for voltage depending on your destination.

St. Kitts & Nevis.... specifically I'll be living on the island of Nevis... just up the block from Montserrat. Wayyy north from where I was living in Trinidad recently, where power was 120V with type B plugs.

Online resources seem to indicate Nevis has both 120V and 230V at 60Hz with outlets being varied from American style to British and old-British styles.
Things I've heard from people though seem to say it is mostly 120V American type B outlets.

jayhwk
05-06-2012, 02:34 PM
You could always go with passive loudspeakers and pick up two amplifiers for the different voltages.

ksmalk08
05-07-2012, 02:50 AM
You could always go with passive loudspeakers and pick up two amplifiers for the different voltages.

An option certainly - but it would still increase the size of the total system to transport around, and if I'm moving the system to a different location on the island, unless I 100% know the voltage there, I'd have to bring two amps.

Unknown DJ
05-08-2012, 03:24 AM
Behringer B205D

Small
Light weight
Lots of output
Plenty of inputs RCA, 1/4 inch XLR
3 band EQ
Rugged
Mounts on a mic stand.
Ran for 2 hours an a small APC UPS
Low price.

Videos of a charity event I did with one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I9bmyX9XIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oao70BvyTI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oao70BvyTI

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/B205D.aspx

ksmalk08
05-08-2012, 03:59 AM
Behringer B205D

Small
Light weight
Lots of output
Plenty of inputs RCA, 1/4 inch XLR
3 band EQ
Rugged
Mounts on a mic stand.
Ran for 2 hours an a small APC UPS
Low price.


thanks for the recommendation.

The amount or type of inputs doesn't add a whole lot for me, plus no voltage switch - if I was going to get a b205d I would go for the b208d instead, but even in that case I would prefer one of the other options, I'm one of those people that aren't a huge behringer fan (although they make some reliable stuff), but I'll consider it. Those videos were impressive for such a small box.

It is tough to tell with any of these without hearing them first.

Unknown DJ
05-08-2012, 09:55 AM
thanks for the recommendation.

The amount or type of inputs doesn't add a whole lot for me, plus no voltage switch - if I was going to get a b205d I would go for the b208d instead, but even in that case I would prefer one of the other options, I'm one of those people that aren't a huge behringer fan (although they make some reliable stuff), but I'll consider it. Those videos were impressive for such a small box.

It is tough to tell with any of these without hearing them first.

http://www.behringer.com/assets/B205D_P0957_Rear_XL.png


100 to 240v says that right under the power switch.

They carry them at guitar center. have a listen, make sure to boast the highs and lows.

ksmalk08
05-11-2012, 04:20 AM
100 to 240v says that right under the power switch.


The manual seems to indicate that the USA/Canada version has a 120V fuse and is not selectable. Saying "please make sure you are using the correct mains voltage."

http://www.behringer.com/assets/B205D_P0957_OI_EN_ES_FR.pdf

Maybe you are right though, I'm not sure - I guess you'd either have to try it, or call someone from Behringer up. The picture you put there though definitely seems to indicate both.