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I figure since there is one for regular setups in the general forum, lets see some pics of your mobile gear.
DJ MR.G.
05-26-05, 12:10 PM
2 QSC RMX2450
1 QSC PLX3402
6 Peavey PR 15
2 B52 LX18
ADJ Commander Plus Mixer
PEAVEY KOSMOS Stereo Imaging Processor
Behringer Dual Engine 24 Bit Multieffects
Rane me15 EQ
2 Denon DJ DN-S5000
DENON DND4500 DUAL CD/MP3 PLAYER
2 Technics SL-1210MK5
4 Ortofno Concorde DJ
Dell Inspiron
15.6 Diagonal Glossy Widescreen
Intel Pentium Dual Core Processor
2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM System Memory
250GB SATA hard drive
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
Seagate Portable Hard Drive, 500GB 5400RPM Black
Torq 1.5 Software
DJ MR.G.
05-26-05, 12:25 PM
Thank Guys :)
monoxide
05-27-05, 05:16 PM
hmm 6 channels and only 2 turntables?
also, im surprised ur acctually using turntables for something for prom
DJ GloX
05-27-05, 06:58 PM
You forget about his CD players inside his console.
DJ MR.G.
05-27-05, 07:15 PM
hmm 6 channels and only 2 turntables?
also, im surprised ur acctually using turntables for something for prom
I use turntables and a CD player for all my gigs unless I'm just doing a PA set up.
PS. Its a 4channels mixer.
dj_viper
05-27-05, 09:42 PM
nice :P
although you need an acrobat or a t-rex in there!
DJ MR.G.
05-27-05, 09:52 PM
nice :P
although you need an acrobat or a t-rex in there!
Whats is a acrobat or a t-rex ?
PS.You have been posting negative BULL SH#T all night :wang:
DJNaviss
05-28-05, 12:10 AM
Here is one of a event last month I believe... Taken before everything was fully setup...
http://www.djnaviss.com/dance/0205/100_1020.JPG
Can't put it in the post, Way to big.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
DJ MR.G.
05-28-05, 01:15 AM
Here is one of a event last month I believe... Taken before everything was fully setup...
http://www.djnaviss.com/dance/0205/100_1020.JPG
Can't put it in the post, Way to big.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
Very nice set up :tup:
You can see a few of mine on my website! Click the link below----V
Sure a lot of songs :spin:
And nice equipment too :dj:
Here is one of a event last month I believe... Taken before everything was fully setup...
http://www.djnaviss.com/dance/0205/100_1020.JPG
Can't put it in the post, Way to big.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
Thats a good PA you;ve got there. Here is just my one little caviot (sp?) of advice:
There is NO way that those mid-high packs will NOT comb-filter when there is 2"+ between the high-frequency elements. With a little adjustment to the way that you "splay" (yep, thats what it's called) your mains, you can get some db increase, more clarity, and LOOSE a nasty effect called comb-filtering from the center of the room.
And are the subs wired phase correct? If so, then there is a way to increase amplifier effeciency by 5-10% with just a few minor changes to your I/O panel on the rack and on the sub I/O panel.
Keep punching those SRX's: really good box.
Regards,
Justin Funke
DJNaviss
05-29-05, 12:54 PM
First of all, Only two of the cab's that night was powered. So, As for the splay, There was none.
When all four are powered, One is on a bin, And one most of the time is placed alittle to the side also pointing to the side.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
DJNaviss
05-29-05, 12:56 PM
Like so.
http://www.djnaviss.com/dance/100_0529.JPG
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
DJ GloX
05-29-05, 01:33 PM
are those 64's? if not, what model are they?
DJNaviss
05-29-05, 03:41 PM
are those 64's? if not, what model are they?
If your asking about mine, I use four par 56's, With 500 watt bulb in each.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
DJ D3CIB3L
06-04-05, 02:21 PM
viper is just trying to get a high post count. By an acrobat or t rex i think he means martin lighting. but anyway, good thing i didnt take that dj name. I was about to.
naviss, of course, nice setup. and mr.g, of course, nice setup too.
My setup isnt so big yet-not enough cash yet and not enough space to transport it. But, nevertheless, my setup does well-from my standpoint.
2x jbl jrx 115 on Ultimate ts-90b's
Crown xls602b
Denon dn-2600f
american dj mixer (soon to upgrade)
2x american dj vertigos
I have no pics yet, but i will take some during the next gig. Peace.
DJ GloX
06-04-05, 03:44 PM
cool, 56 :) 500. Geezus
Ellissentials
06-04-05, 03:53 PM
whoa... nice setup's guys :dj:
...........wish I had the money for that sound :cry: :complain:
abrasowski
06-16-05, 03:18 PM
DJ Mr. G-
I was wondering what you thought of the americanaudio speakers that were in that setup picture of yours. I have been recently thinking about purchasing some powered speakers and were considering those. I would love to get the mackies or JBL eon g2's but my wallet wont allow me right now.
Also why did you replace the american audio ones with the peavy powered speakers?? are the peavey better.
Just looking for your opinion on those two speakers.
Thanks
Alexander
By the way, these forums are great, lots of info
DJ MR.G.
06-16-05, 05:04 PM
DJ Mr. G-
I was wondering what you thought of the americanaudio speakers that were in that setup picture of yours. I have been recently thinking about purchasing some powered speakers and were considering those. I would love to get the mackies or JBL eon g2's but my wallet wont allow me right now.
Also why did you replace the american audio ones with the peavy powered speakers?? are the peavey better.
Just looking for your opinion on those two speakers.
Thanks
Alexander
By the way, these forums are great, lots of info
The American Audio speakers are some very good speakers.
They sound good and put out excellent bass for a 15in. woofer.
The reason I replaced the American Audio with the Peavey pr 15 is
to have all matching speakers and the American Audio has 250 Watts RMS, 8 Ohm and the Peavey's are 400 Watts RMS,8hm.
The Peavey's also have excellent bass for a 15in. speaker.
Over all the Peavey's are better and they are lightweight and easy to put up on stands.
here's my set up:
2 technics 1200's Mk2 with stanton mixmaster needles(ithink)
2 Numark Cdn 90 cd player (1 for the back up)
1 Numark PPD9000 Digital Mixer
1 Shure PGX 24 wireless mic
1 Chauvet SF-9005 light controller
1 Furman PL-Pro D Power Conditioner
1 Dbx 223 2-way Crossover
mixer, cd player, mic system, crossover, light controller, power conditioner are all in one TDX(i think) Case
2 JBL Mpro215 (speaker)
2 JBL MP255S (Subs)
1 QSC RMX2450
1 QSC RMX1450
2 JBL EON G2 (speaker)
2 Mackie SWA1501 (Subs)
i hardly use jbl subs tho...
LIGHTS::
1 Martin Ego 3 (hot as hell Light)
1 American Dj Lotus Light
1 Big Strobe
1 Fog Machine
1 American Dj Laser Light
1 Onstage Stand for the lights
i usually take all the lights with the stand....Case.turns.....mpro215 and 1 amp to gigs...and fit all this into 2 dr Honda Civic 04 lolz...now i got my new jbl g2 and mackie subs i guess i will be taking that lols...but thatz my set up
I figure since there is one for regular setups in the general forum, lets see some pics of your mobile gear.
This is a pic thread with only a few pics and alot of descriptions...c'mon ppl. :dance:
DJ D3CIB3L
08-19-05, 08:48 PM
i got some pics! These are from today after i installed my new qsc rmx 2450. I will try to go to a budds house to host some high res pics from a recent gig last saturday. I only have 56k and it sucks. Neways- here are the pics.
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/4853/dsc003607uk.th.jpg (http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc003607uk.jpg)
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/9760/dsc003681iv.th.jpg (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc003681iv.jpg)
http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/2005/dsc003640tg.th.jpg (http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc003640tg.jpg)
DjUnknown
09-04-05, 06:33 AM
yup, looks good
DJ Knowledge
09-11-05, 06:53 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b247/DJKnowledge777/DJRoom1.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b247/DJKnowledge777/DJRoom7.jpg
The first pic shows my full range tops. The second picture shows my tops and bottoms. I have a 4x6 utility trailer to haul everything around.
cool...what's your source?
DJ Knowledge
09-15-05, 08:19 PM
What do you mean what is my source?
CD turtables, Viynl turtables, PC, LAppy, walkman, AM/FM radio.....you name it...where does your music come from (aka: your source) :spin:
DJ Knowledge
09-17-05, 09:42 PM
I spin records about 95% of the time. The other 5% is CD's.
djscrizzle
09-26-05, 01:45 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v243/djscrizzle/Mobile%20DJ%20Pix/MySetup.jpg
Is my setup. I bring a Toshiba Satellite laptop with me in addition to this. My PA is in the "Post Pics of your PA Setup" thread
And yes, the JBL Computer Speakers work great as monitors.
windsweptdj
09-27-05, 11:24 PM
This is a pic of my lettering that I just had done...My fog shoots out the front of the console through a bass port...http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b101/windswept_/59fe2444.jpg
looks neat windswept...but i would have went without the rainbow color stuff...awesome idea for the fog.
Here is a quick snap of my compact mobile rig.
The spooky thing about this one is the effects created by fans and fog and the lighting in the center.
Can you see the Ghost. LOL
:eek: kinda looks like a deformed skull lol
DJHolmz
10-07-05, 01:49 PM
Here is a quick snap of my compact mobile rig.
The spooky thing about this one is the effects created by fans and fog and the lighting in the center.
Can you see the Ghost. LOL
Nice lighting truss.
simatbirch
10-08-05, 07:05 AM
Yep - it's massive!
It's not all that big.
That's a 4mtr truss, this is the rig I take into almost anywhere, unless it's a really big room, then I will lenghten the truss, add more lighting and install some subs.
What you can't see too well in that photo is the Laser in the centre of the truss and the arcline strobe tubing that runs up and over.
This is run from a dedicated strobe controller so it can run various sequences at whatever speed/rate I choose. Definately a better option than the generic strobes most DJs use.
The laser is fully DMX's too so I have ti doing tunnels and flat lines etc..
Sound wise showing there are two Peavey Hi-Sys 4's running from a 1U digital amp, fed from a Compressor/Limitier unit from my mixer.
Will shove some different photo's up soon.
groovydjs
11-04-05, 11:02 PM
My gear (http://www.freewebs.com/groovyproductions/equipment.htm)
DJ*ECUE
11-04-05, 11:19 PM
My gear (http://www.freewebs.com/groovyproductions/equipment.htm)
nice setup groovydjs. Im just wondering how many hours do you set up your lightning rig?
3 hrs according to his site. Kudos on the rig Groovy. How many circuits do you use on that? Or do you use a distro?
groovydjs
11-05-05, 01:03 PM
Hi, the setup time ranges from 3-4 hours, like to have at least 3 circuits, will run a 220V distro whenever the cable run or the facility will allow for it. I just have to be careful of what lights to use at the same time when I'm not given ample circuits.
I can't beleive you run that off three circuits. What gear I have I run off three...if I had that stuff, I would probably run 6 at least. Now, I am talking sound and lighting here. Did you just mean that you use 3 for lighting?
groovydjs
11-07-05, 07:01 PM
Yeah, 3 on lighting and preferably 2 more for subs and one more for the rest of the sound system.
DJ Shane
12-07-05, 04:56 PM
where would you get your main power feed for a Distro unit at a gig?
DJNaviss
12-07-05, 05:59 PM
Fuse box. :)
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
JimmyVRX
12-08-05, 01:47 AM
You can see my shizzle in the photo gallery at: MusicalGod.Com (http://www.musicalgod.com)
DJ Shane
12-08-05, 04:37 PM
Fuse box. :)
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
Oooooooo. I like that idea. :devil:
Hey guys, my buddy and I are just starting up our DJ biz, and we're to the point of purchasing our speakers and mixer. We've been working with a reliable local vendor and he suggested the B-52 matrix system for us (2 Sat's, 1 sub). He is stearing us away from the powered speakers because the soddered joints tend to loosen up over time (his words).
Any reviews of the matrix system? I like it because it's compact, and B-52 is a solid speaker, just looking for other opinions out there.
I have experience with the Matrix 1000 system. I like it. Lots of ummph from a compact system. Depending on your functions, I recommend more speakers though. ALL of my speakers are B-52. (Emenince drivers in the soon to be born Tubas) I stand behind them all the way.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/denn0/setup.jpg
What's with the log??? :smash:
DJ D3CIB3L
12-10-05, 12:19 PM
Heres one pic of my gig last night. Surprise brithday party for my buddy's sister. Great night- more pics to come.
PS: The guy with the white polo in the pic is my mc, the other is one of my budds- I can never get in the pic myself. :banghead:
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9732/dsc008955jw.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc008955jw.jpg)
DJ Shane
12-10-05, 06:20 PM
whats that hooked up to your speaker stands?
djscrizzle
12-10-05, 06:56 PM
where would you get your main power feed for a Distro unit at a gig?
A NEMA 14-50 outlet (Range outlet) or a 400 amp camlock panel or at worst a tie-in :D
A Nema 14-50: http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062857/K=nema+14-50/v=2/SID=w/TID=YS64_81/l=II/R=11/SS=i/OID=82256efad2b79c72/;_ylt=As13Td4.gpN2teY.XqcGRniJzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBxZX JhcHI2BHBvcwMxMQRzZWMDc3IEdnRpZANZUzY0Xzgx/SIG=1en0eb58j/EXP=1134382610/*-http%3A//images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dnema%2B14-50%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-img-t%26fl%3D0%26x%3Dwrt&w=162&h=156&imgurl=www.frentzandsons.com%2FHardware%2520Refere nces%2Fplug%2520imiges%2F14-50p.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frentzandsons.com%2FHardware %2520References%2Fplugandreceptacleconfiguratio.ht m&size=8.7kB&name=14-50p.jpg&p=nema+14-50&type=jpeg&no=11&tt=13&ei=UTF-8
A Camlock: http://www.starlite.com/rental_catalog/lighting_rental_catalog/camlockcables.jpg
A stage Camlock power box+ the company switch:
http://www.patrickboone.com/Sloss/power1.jpg
A Camlock stage power outlet box http://www.patrickboone.com/Sloss/power2.jpg
DJ Pyro
12-10-05, 11:38 PM
Heres one pic of my gig last night. Surprise brithday party for my buddy's sister. Great night- more pics to come.
PS: The guy with the white polo in the pic is my mc, the other is one of my budds- I can never get in the pic myself. :banghead:
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9732/dsc008955jw.th.jpg (http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc008955jw.jpg)
by chance do you have a pic from the other side? Would love to see how your equip is setup. I've been looking for something like that to hide my gear during gigs.
mast3rfull
12-10-05, 11:43 PM
Here is a quick snap of my compact mobile rig.
The spooky thing about this one is the effects created by fans and fog and the lighting in the center.
Can you see the Ghost. LOL
:jerk: :kleenex:
Shane, those appear to be some sort of lights.
DJ Shane
12-11-05, 02:44 PM
hmmmm yeah you're right. Those are some weird lights tho.
DJ D3CIB3L
12-11-05, 02:54 PM
Dj shane, those are old style chauvet Omegas on my stands. Dj pyro, sorry, I didnt think to take pics from the other side- but all thats behind there is a Gator 6x10 mounted on an odyssey stand, a Denon DN-2600F, Rane MP-24, and a Qsc RMX-2450.
Pyro- I built the facade myself- I used 1 4x8 sheet of 3/4 ply and got it cut to 2 3ft sections and 2 18in sections. I bought stanley hinges and semi gloss black paint (to paint the back) from home depot and bought jet black carpet from parts express. For glue, I used 3m super 77. Also, I used larger hinges in the middle with removable pins so that the facade turns into two peices (better for transportation)
More Pics!
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2313/dsc008971xo.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc008971xo.jpg)
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1006/dsc008987dk.th.jpg (http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc008987dk.jpg)
I don't have any pics of my set-up yet, will get them up later, but I have a question for anyone who can help.
I've got a truss system that was really cheap, it's the 140-DJT-10 (http://www.cheaplights.com/catalog/01_info.php?sec=140). It's perfect for what we do, lightweight, collapsable, and steady. Does anyone know of any tricks on how to make the set up go a little quick and with less hassle?
It's held together by all plastic joints (very similar to the Chauvet light stands we picked up with our speakers). Putting the cross truss onto the stands is a bit of a pain though.
One thing I did do to it though was superglue the nuts to the inside of the plastic joints to prevent them from falling off and rolling away. Figured that would be a great help when setting up in the dark.
What are you opinions on cleaning foggers? I've heard some people say it's essential to keeping your fogger running, and others who say never clean them.
Mike, other than your superglue trick, not much you can do. I have the same truss but I always have at least 2 people with me to set-up so it really isn't an issue. However, one thing I did to help was keep the middle brace on one of the sections of truss so you only have to fight putting one set of bolts into that center piece. Another idea I had was to drill out the holes a bit so they line up, but, as i said, with 2 people, it's rather easy.
DJ Pyro
12-16-05, 02:49 PM
Dj shane, those are old style chauvet Omegas on my stands. Dj pyro, sorry, I didnt think to take pics from the other side- but all thats behind there is a Gator 6x10 mounted on an odyssey stand, a Denon DN-2600F, Rane MP-24, and a Qsc RMX-2450.
Pyro- I built the facade myself- I used 1 4x8 sheet of 3/4 ply and got it cut to 2 3ft sections and 2 18in sections. I bought stanley hinges and semi gloss black paint (to paint the back) from home depot and bought jet black carpet from parts express. For glue, I used 3m super 77. Also, I used larger hinges in the middle with removable pins so that the facade turns into two peices (better for transportation)
More Pics!
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/2313/dsc008971xo.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc008971xo.jpg)
http://img332.imageshack.us/img332/1006/dsc008987dk.th.jpg (http://img332.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc008987dk.jpg)
thanks gave me a great idea... hopefully over this winter break I can fix me up one... so did you do any of the wood work or did you just have home depot cut it for you and you just put everything together?
JPhoenix
12-16-05, 03:54 PM
This last system is the best I've seen from the outside - quick question - when you're talking mobile DJ - are you all just bringing your whole kits to do proms and parties or is there anyone here that does weddings and such? It takes me litterally 35 minutes to do my setup, or an hour if we bring intel lights - but that's max. I can hold everything but the lights in my honda civic. You can find pictures of the set by clicking through http://www.skmentertainment.com/
I'm just curious is all.
D3CIB3L - we have a cloth facade that were custom made, we use metal T bars that we attach to the tables to hold it up, quite ingenious if you ask me!
DJ D3CIB3L
12-16-05, 08:50 PM
I had home depot cut it for me- saves me the work. I would have done it myself, but it is wayy too cold and I dont want to be outside cutting wood while I could just get it cut for free at Home Depot. The rest was basically assembling the whole thing- it was the carpeting that took the most time.
But yes, its a fairly easy job and it turned out great for me.
DJ Pyro
12-16-05, 11:39 PM
cool good to know, hopefully I can get some pics as I build me one
djthunder
12-21-05, 01:11 PM
I don't have any pics of my set-up yet, will get them up later, but I have a question for anyone who can help.
I've got a truss system that was really cheap, it's the 140-DJT-10 (http://www.cheaplights.com/catalog/01_info.php?sec=140). It's perfect for what we do, lightweight, collapsable, and steady. Does anyone know of any tricks on how to make the set up go a little quick and with less hassle?
It's held together by all plastic joints (very similar to the Chauvet light stands we picked up with our speakers). Putting the cross truss onto the stands is a bit of a pain though.
One thing I did do to it though was superglue the nuts to the inside of the plastic joints to prevent them from falling off and rolling away. Figured that would be a great help when setting up in the dark.
It's your lucky day, as I have some good, good tips for you. First of all, you did the right thing super-gluing those nuts in.
1. You want to leave as much together as you possibly can. Get the side pieces that hold the truss to the stand into a good position, tighten them good onto the stands, never move them again. If you have a long trailer or a long van, leave the two 5 foot sections together. Before you assume you can, measure it, try to fit it, make sure you can't before assuming.
Okay, I am a solo DJ, so I have to set up this kind of truss on my own, and I bet I can get it up just about as fast as most two guys. If the "two guys" are really good at their business, then yes, they will beat me, but I am pretty fast these days. I do NOT have a long enough cargo space to fit in the two 5 foot sections assembled together, which would require 10 feet of cargo space. So my starting point is two stands with the truss mounts ALWAYS attacted, and two of the stands assembled, at lowest hieght setting.
Tips:
2. Put vasoline on the joints. No kidding! Keep a little jar of vasoline in your vehicle, incase you need to recoat. Thought I coated the joints (where the truss pieces go together, and where the truss connects to the stands) once in three months, haven't had to recoat. You don't need a lot of vasoline, just a little will help A LOT.
3. Also, something to remember, is to always tighten the screws after disassembly. This seems like a time waster, but it is instead a bolt saver. If you don't tighten the screws, after taking down, those bolts will rattle loose during travel, and be lost forever.
When setting up:
4. Lay out the stands & truss on the floor, approximately where you want them. Turn the feet on each stand, so two feet are facing the floor, the third is facing the air. This makes the truss lay flatter on the ground, and will aid in standing it up.
5. Put the two 5 foot sections together by standing one up on it's end. Stand the one up that has the smaller pipes in the joint already, and as you can guess, point the joint with the smaller pipes in the middle (joining pipes) up in the air. Now pick up the other 5 foot section, pull it over the top of those small pipes, and then use gavity as your aid to give it a good tug right into place. With practice, you will get this bugger all the way in the first try!
6. Center the now assembled 10 feet of truss between the stands. Make sure the stands are at a decent hieght to start with, but not higher than where you can reach the lower bar on the truss, when it is stood up, you will understand why in a minute.
7. Loosen the bolts on the joints on the stands, where the truss will fit in.. THEN use a FLATHEAD SCREW DRIVER to spread teh plastic joint a little. Be gentle, you don't want to bust the thing, just stretch so the pipes will go in easier. Don't waste a lot of time either, just real quick on each side.
8. Use a mallet. NEVER USE A HAMMER! A hammer will damage your stands, a good mallet used correctly will do no harm, but make your life easier. Before using the mallet, align the truss into the opening of the joints on the each stand, then use the mallet, a few taps on the top and bottom, then top, then bottom, and it will go right in. Do each stand, one at a time.
9. Okay, you should be assembled now. Now spread the legs on each stand a LITTLE, not a lot. Just enough to get some balance. If you spread them a lot, you may damage/twist things up when you lift the truss.
10. Okay, now with the stand legs extended a little, go to the MIDDLE OF THE TRUSS, and lift up from there. DO NOT LIFT FROM THE SIDE OF THE TRUSS, and never let anyone attempt to help you by lifting from the side while you're lifting from the center of the 10 foot truss. You will find it easy to lift it up there.
11. Once up, go to each side, and extend the legs a little more, then the back and forth, not stressing or twisting the truss too much, until it is fulling extended. Then, if you need to lift the truss higher, do this.
Taking it down.
12. reverse of setup. Pull the legs in, but leave a little bit of extension to keep enough balance for you to reach the center of the truss to bring it down. If you turned the legs around when it was setup for better support, make sure to turn the legs again, so that two legs will be facing the ground when you lay the thing down again. Once again, don't let someone help you from one side, while you are in the center. If you want help, one person per side, period.
13. Once it is layed down, pull the legs in, so it is laying flat again. Loosen all the bolts you have to, use the mallet to get all the joints apart, including the center of the 10 foot truss.
14. Remember to tighten all the bolts, so you don't loose them in travel time.
Good luck!!!!
djthunder
12-21-05, 01:21 PM
Funny, after looking that over, it looks like a lot to do....LOL... But really, try the routine a few times, you'll find it goes fast. I have have a truss assembled and standing at the right hieghts in under 3 minutes, maybe less than 2.
Thanks djthunder for the tips. It took us about 50 minutes to set up everything, and that was both of us putting together the lights at the same time instead of really speeding up the process. Not too bad.
We found it easiest to do what you said pretty much. The vaseline tip though I will definately use.
DJ Shane
12-24-05, 01:32 PM
Well you can view my little rig at http://Shane.sifen7.com/system.htm
It may seem like it doesn't work that well but believe me it is loud and does what I want.
Just a few words...Clean Up Your Mess!! I'm sure you know where everything is plugged in or where this wire and that wire goes, but, that just looks disgusting. Sorry... :uhoh:
DJ D3CIB3L
12-24-05, 07:50 PM
Shane, do you actually mobile? Or just house party?
djscrizzle
12-24-05, 09:41 PM
I Agree! clean that sh1t up bro... In/Out panels for the racks and split-loom tubing anywhere else aughtta clean your setup right up! Fill up those empty spaces with some gear or make/buy some filler panels. One of the fillers should have a fan in it to keep that amp cooled nicely
ExZiBiT D
12-25-05, 12:40 AM
here are some pics of just whats in my house, what i have room for to mix and play on in my house. sorry the pics arent the best. and this is just my first setup. i got some other equipment too that hasnt been added in yet. i made sure to leave room in designing this thing. hope ya like
oh yeah how do i get these to post up on here?
you can check out
www.deezentertainment.com (http://www.deezentertainment.com)
site still undersconstruction but a lot is there.....
DJ D3CIB3L
12-25-05, 08:42 AM
Exzibit- you can host your pics at imageshack.us and use the thumbnail for forums link- paste that link onto the body of your reply- making sure you make it a url. by the way- nice setup! Did you build the case yourself?
ExZiBiT D
12-25-05, 02:55 PM
hello, thanks for the info on posting, see i went to image and it says insert text. is that where i put the URL of where the photo it?
anyway. YES, i did build the case myself and i also built the rolling cart too that is housing the amps and other stuff. the case is big and awkward, but i wanted something that would hold everything nicely and have easy access and control of what i was doing. the case is about 4 foot wide, and 20 inches tall. right now it is holding my laptop, mixer, wireless mic receiver, 4 switch lighting panel, and will soon be holding an 8 switch power block and a dual cd setup, players on the bottom portion under the laptop, and the controls up above the mixer. still working on other stuff too, going to get some gray carpeting and "TRY" to cut out my business name in the same font that is on my site, should be interesting and I hope i dont screw it up, that carpeting is about 10 bucks a yard. and thanks for the comment too.
later......
DJ D3CIB3L
12-25-05, 07:57 PM
Umm, use the URL link to post thumbnail links from imageshack.
Great work on the console- I like it. Also, try partsexpress.com and go to speaker building and look for carpet. There is cheaper carpet there- both latex backed and regular, in all different colors. What's best is that the latex is only $5 per yard and the non latex backed is $3.90 per yard. Kudos to the setup!
Happy Holidays!
ExZiBiT D
12-25-05, 11:52 PM
thanks alot dj d3cib3l, will check that site out. the carpet im using though is like a shag 70's type look, kinda thick stuff, which probably explains why its like 10 a yard, i will give that site a look and see what i can find, and Happy Holidays to you too.......
DJ Shane
12-26-05, 12:55 PM
Just a few words...Clean Up Your Mess!! I'm sure you know where everything is plugged in or where this wire and that wire goes, but, that just looks disgusting. Sorry... :uhoh:
Well yeah I know it looks shabby but Im constantly doing something that involves moving things around and bunching my wires to gether or hiding them wouldnt exactly work for me.
I Agree! clean that sh1t up bro... In/Out panels for the racks and split-loom tubing anywhere else aughtta clean your setup right up! Fill up those empty spaces with some gear or make/buy some filler panels. One of the fillers should have a fan in it to keep that amp cooled nicely
My rack is homemade and I just painted it last week. I still owe $240 and have no income so buying more gear for it isn't an option and making fillers is something I dont care to try because I have stuff that I set on top of my EQ in that space and Im not that skilled. And my amp doesn't really get too hot.
Shane, do you actually mobile? Or just house party?
Yeah I mobile.
All in all I never posted sooner because as I figured would happen I feel like a retarded noob now but I guess I deserve it. I wanted equipment so bad that I bought what I could find in the places I have around here (no Dj stores). I found out about a new Guitar Center an hour away not long after purchasing all my stuff and then I found some good gear sites. I could have kicked myself when I found out. But believe me if I could start over from scratch I would have an awesome set up. I have to deal and ugrade with what I have for now tho.
I didn't mean to offend you...but it kinda did come out that way. Just dress it up. Fill the gaps, and when doing mobile hide the wires
DJ Shane
12-26-05, 08:17 PM
Will do. Thanks :spin: :dj: :spin:
djneebor
01-09-06, 12:15 PM
2 technics 1210
vestax 07 pro
2 american dj pro dj2 cd players
ableton live 5
reason 3
sound forge
m-audio controller
guitar rig 2
crates of records
ton's of mp3's
ton's of cd's
i'll put a pic up when i get everything organized...
I usually rent the p.a. but should invest in some jbl eon's or somthing.
Been busy with school and work so djing has become a relaxing downtime hobby.
DJ D3CIB3L
01-09-06, 03:25 PM
jbl eon's are bad. Dont get them. Search for them in the search box and you will get a thread explaining what various problems they have.
All powered speakers have their ups and downs, even Mackies.
DJ D3CIB3L
01-27-06, 10:11 PM
I figured that nobody is posting pics here anymore. Lets get the thread moving again guys! Here, I will start.
Here are some recent pics that I've taken of my mixer/cd player.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3395/1005ro.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1005ro.jpg)
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5031/dsc01041008kd.th.jpg (http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01041008kd.jpg)
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2218/4000gs.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4000gs.jpg)
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2448/2000vv.th.jpg (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2000vv.jpg)
[img=http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/8610/dsc01040001vf.th.jpg] (http://img56.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01040001vf.jpg)
Hope you guys like. C ya.
DJ Shane
01-29-06, 03:26 PM
nice stuff. Cool mixer I like it.
djberto690
02-08-06, 12:04 AM
YO you all have nice equipement.
While I do not have a picture, here is what I am using.
2 Technics Mk5's
Vestax PC-05 Samurai (Battle equip)
Numark CDN-88
Numark DM-1200
8 JBL EON 15P
2 Mackie 15"
Numark CDN 15 (for backup)
misc. American dj lights
pioneer HDJ-1000s headphones
OH Yeah and Video stuff too
DJ Shane
02-08-06, 01:37 PM
Well I got news for you. You need to steal a camera or somethin, I gotta see this stuff.
Yay, we took these in the basement with a disposable camera. Those don't exactly take good pictures. These were taken without the new console system we built.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a394/terrasin/a414b80d.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a394/terrasin/f60f33ff.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a394/terrasin/125c0102.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a394/terrasin/72a5946f.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a394/terrasin/600f595d.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a394/terrasin/65f9b1e9.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a394/terrasin/e3922095.jpg
blackstone
02-09-06, 01:24 PM
Mystic, I can't tell from the pics....but what speakers are you running? (Looks like Gemini.) Do they sound good and reliable?
Also, how is that Pyramid amp working out?
Thanks.
The Gemini speakers, amazingly enough, sound great. Lots of clarity and power from what I would expect from like EV or Mackie.
The amp is awesome. I was running all 4 of the speaker boxes from it before I started using my second amp below it. No problems at all.
blackstone
02-09-06, 08:52 PM
Thanks for the info. Are they 15's on top? Any particular model? Good low end?
I've seen some Gemini speakers for good prices that my fit my needs until I can save up for more.
Again, cool setup.
mast3rfull
02-09-06, 08:57 PM
all the pretty lights
My humble mobile setup...
http://www.djtproductions.biz/setup01.jpg
http://www.djtproductions.biz/setup02.jpg
DJServidio
03-07-06, 01:37 AM
http://djservidio.com/IMG_0644.JPG
that's my assistant in the picture..
-Jon:D
allenchadclark
03-16-06, 01:18 PM
How are the B52's working out for you? I have heard mixed reviews and never actually heard any of the equipment.
DJServidio
03-17-06, 02:41 AM
allenchadclark... welcome to DJForum.com...
maybe i'm a little drunk, but who has b52's i read all of page 4, and couldn't see anything about b52's...
not trying to be a jerk, but try to remember in your next posts to direct a ? at a specific user, so we all know what's going on....
I have all B-52 speakers and I love them. I have the Matrix 1000 and a couple of the MX-1515's.
DJServidio
05-15-06, 12:02 PM
http://www.djservidio.com/bigsetup.jpg
here is the big setup... again pic is a little blurry. damn camera phone. u get the point though
-Jon
DJ Shane
05-15-06, 03:29 PM
Nice rig Jon. You just love those Mackies huh?
DJServidio
05-15-06, 06:57 PM
yes... i do
:slayer:
I'm new on this, I hope it works!
Greetings!
Here is my lights rack, There are 4 Chauvet ColorSplashJr missing in the picture!
are those mackie srm450's? nice. how much did you pay for them. thinking about getting a pair.
DJ Shane
05-15-06, 08:07 PM
Wow man that is nice. Expensive too. Welcome to the forums.
DJ Pyro
05-15-06, 11:14 PM
:slayer:
I'm new on this, I hope it works!
Greetings!
welcome to the boards I see you cam in style lol
Thanks! Well, let's just say I don't want any surprises on my first gig! ;)
Greetings!
Zwaigh
Zwaigh, where did you get your truss and stands?
ExZiBiT D
05-19-06, 08:23 PM
Below are some updated pictures
My rig consists of....
2 EV Eliminator Dual 15 cabs
Dell Inspiron with Echo Indigo DJ Card, 160GB External drive, Mixmeister Pro 6.0
Crown XLS602
Furman Power Conditioner
LTS50 truss kit, with 4 par 38s and controller, 2 ADJ trilogy's, 2 eliminator mushrooms
Chauvet Bubble king 550 (what a mess this bad boy makes)
Sennheiser Freeport 35 UHF system
Custom made rack units to hold everything
other MISC stuff but that is the main setup......
and this is just the start.....
http://www.deezentertainment.com/images/Setup_First_Pic.JPG
<br>
From a wedding a few weeks ago
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http://www.deezentertainment.com/images/mixerandcomputer4-25.JPG
<br>
http://www.deezentertainment.com/sitebuilder/images/P4280017-292x224.jpg
Zwaigh, where did you get your truss and stands?
I git the whole system at idjnow.com is a Global truss system, 13 ft triangular truss with st-132 bases + adapters. It supposed to hold about 440 lbs. It's a breeze to work with it.
zwaigh.
DJNaviss
05-20-06, 09:06 PM
Nice lighting rig there Zwaigh! Indeed a great truss!
I done a event tonight, And used my smallest rig, Well at least in lighting. I'll post some pic's in a few moment's, Mainly just cause I got to use my DJM-800 for the first event (Just got it Thursday). Next week my rotary kit come's for it. Must say, I love the damn thing!
I'll return in a few to post pic's.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
DJNaviss
05-20-06, 09:19 PM
Since I done this event alone, I didn't have time to take many photo's. Really wouldn't have got these two if I didn't remember while I was packing up. (Took this as I was tearing down.)
Basic Package (http://www.djnaviss.com/gradparty/gradparty1.jpg)
Basic Package 2 (http://www.djnaviss.com/gradparty/gradparty2.jpg)
DJM - 800 In My Setup. (http://www.djnaviss.com/gradparty/djm800.jpg)
I do love the harder fader's on this mixer as to what I had on the 600, However I know my rotary kit will be awesome on this mixer! Can't wait. I'll post pic's when I have it installed.
Some info about the event, I didn't take picture's of the building or anything. :( Mainly cause I just wanted to get out, I was alittle tried. About an hour half to setup the rig, 30 Minute's to tear down and leave.
It was a Grad party!:tup:
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
DJ GAINS BOND
05-20-06, 09:53 PM
just got my 800 yesterday a beaut i tell ya
DJNaviss
05-20-06, 10:09 PM
Yep, It's a great mixer... I paid 1,200$ for my DJM-600 a few year's back, And for this one I only had to pay 1,259$... Not bad for a great upgrade such as that.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
:slayer:
I'm new on this, I hope it works!
Greetings!
those lights that high.. just look amazing haha
im used to them being soo low
DJ Shane
05-21-06, 04:59 PM
Exibit- How are those Par-38s? Decent light?
Nav- Plans for the 600?
ExZiBiT D
05-21-06, 05:41 PM
DJ Shane, I was actually quite surprised at how much they actually added to my light show. although I only have 2 mushrooms and 2 trilogys those really put out a lot with all 4 of those going as well. I was very happy only having a hundred bucks invested in the par cans, controller, bulbs and gels. The controller is a chauvet RLC-737 which will do steady on, music, chase, or run through 16 different combos, american dj cans and they came with the bulbs. I got the setup from HYTECH Gear. They are in ohio.
DJNaviss
05-21-06, 06:51 PM
It will be added into the rest of the studio stuff. :) I'll be an old man before I start selling my gear! I shall be 80 and still have all the first gear I started with!
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
Nice lighting rig there Zwaigh! Indeed a great truss!
I done a event tonight, And used my smallest rig, Well at least in lighting. I'll post some pic's in a few moment's, Mainly just cause I got to use my DJM-800 for the first event (Just got it Thursday). Next week my rotary kit come's for it. Must say, I love the damn thing!
I'll return in a few to post pic's.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
Thanks! I wanted to post pictures of my decks and rack equipment but seems like I'm limited to 100k. How can I post bigger pictures?
zwaigh
DJNaviss
05-21-06, 10:05 PM
....Just shoot me your pic's, I'll host them on my server here at the house.... Send'em in E-mail to webmaster@djnaviss.com Subject "Naviss" or I wont get them.
Or online... Yahoo: DJNaviss2000
MSN: The_Voice1469@hotmail.com
My AOL is down at the moment.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
Let's see if this works!
http://us.geo1.yimg.com/pic.geocities.com/us/i/geo/ps/pic.gif
Ok, one more time!
http://discoinyourhouse.com/Decks.jpg
Ok, that wasn't that hard!
These are my new decks, CDJ-1000 MK3s, my Allen & Heath Xone:32 and my wife's iBook.
DJ Pyro
05-22-06, 01:25 PM
pic just b4 I headed out to a gig... I'm wondering how I am going
to fit my tuba and my dual 15''s when I get them
http://www.freewebs.com/pyroaudio/100%5F0093.JPG
DJ Pyro
05-22-06, 01:29 PM
hey you should let me borrow those mk3s for life lol
hey you should let me borrow those mk3s for life lol
LOL! Whenever you need'em man!:slayer:
zwaigh
DJHolmz
05-22-06, 03:24 PM
....Just shoot me your pic's, I'll host them on my server here at the house.... Send'em in E-mail to webmaster@djnaviss.com Subject "Naviss" or I wont get them.
Or online... Yahoo: DJNaviss2000
MSN: The_Voice1469@hotmail.com
My AOL is down at the moment.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
I have some video from my last two gigs. Where can I host that? I like to post the vids here.
DJ Shane
05-22-06, 05:23 PM
DJ Shane, I was actually quite surprised at how much they actually added to my light show. although I only have 2 mushrooms and 2 trilogys those really put out a lot with all 4 of those going as well. I was very happy only having a hundred bucks invested in the par cans, controller, bulbs and gels. The controller is a chauvet RLC-737 which will do steady on, music, chase, or run through 16 different combos, american dj cans and they came with the bulbs. I got the setup from HYTECH Gear. They are in ohio.WOW!!! Thanks bro. The prices on their PARS are crazy. Thats robbery man.
ExZiBiT D
05-22-06, 06:17 PM
about 10 bucks for a par 38 can with a bulb is robbery? i thought that was pretty cheap considering that i saw others for a lot more....that will serve the same purpose...
DJNaviss
05-22-06, 07:52 PM
Holmz's, Just send them to me, I'll host them on my server.
http://www.djnaviss.com/naviss.gif
about 10 bucks for a par 38 can with a bulb is robbery? i thought that was pretty cheap considering that i saw others for a lot more....that will serve the same purpose...
I think he meant it as if we the consumer were "robbing" them the retailer because they are selling it for so cheap :tup:
DJ Pyro
05-22-06, 09:43 PM
WOW!!! Thanks bro. The prices on their PARS are crazy. Thats robbery man.
same place I got my lighting stand from... I will be ordering
a par system next so that I can always have some lighting
ExZiBiT D
05-22-06, 11:18 PM
Damn, My bad, misunderstood what he was saying there, nevermind my post about it then DJ Shane.......I was surprised too about the Chauvet RLC-737, most other places were charging around like 50-60 bucks for it and I got it for like 30 or 35 or something, and it wasnt refurbished like i thought cause i asked them when they told me the price, cause i couldnt believe they were like 20 bucks less then the other places i had checked on it at......
DJ Shane
05-23-06, 06:37 PM
Yeah. Thats a nice place man. In fact your gettin some rep for tellin us about that. When I get dough Im definetly gettin some pars from them. Thanks. :tup:
Dj Fannarboy
05-29-06, 09:31 PM
Here is mine...
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTIwNTUwNTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg
DJ ViraL
05-29-06, 11:05 PM
FannarBoy, Do you use ScratchLive? Final Scratch? Or just like Virtual DJ/Traktor DJ. I am a big fan of Scratch Live :)
Anyways..
My setup consists of something like this:
2- Stanton STR8-20's
1- Stanton something mixer (forgot model name)
1- Xion CD Deck set.
1- Sony VAIO Laptop
1- ScratchLive Hardware Component :)
As for lights.. The gigs I go to usually have lights (Im a club DJ)
1- Color disco thing.
1- Electra something (kinda cool)
1- Laser something
I rarely use lights as I said..
Here is mine...
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTIwNTUwNTZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg
you gave me the perfect idea for my setup!
are you using something like: http://www.zzounds.com/item--RAXSLE1
in something like: http://www.zzounds.com/item--GMNMRC2
because that is a good idea
groovydjs
06-05-06, 03:27 PM
http://www.freewebs.com/groovyproductions/equipment.htm
Wow! Looks good Groovy! Great span.
DJ Shane
06-05-06, 03:45 PM
sweet man I coulda sworn Jamesnet had a system like that
thats a effing lot of speakers!
DJ Pyro
06-05-06, 04:46 PM
thats a effing lot of speakers!
I would have to agree with you on that one
Pearce C
06-05-06, 05:15 PM
This isn't my PA, but it is the one I use for all mobile gigs. Belongs to my friend Jay, and he lets us use ti whenever, as we help him out alot with gigs and stuff he gets booked. That thing pounds, all home built speakers, and that is only like 1/4 of what he has in the "magic garage." I posted this already, but thought it might some more views/technical comments here.
What do you think?
http://www.gekrecords.com/images/sound1.jpg
http://www.gekrecords.com/images/sound2.jpg
http://www.gekrecords.com/images/sound3.jpg
http://www.gekrecords.com/images/sound4.jpg
http://www.gekrecords.com/images/sound5.jpg
http://www.gekrecords.com/images/sound6.jpg
http://www.gekrecords.com/images/sound7.jpg
DJ Pyro
06-05-06, 06:50 PM
are those subs dual drivers or single? system looks pretty nice
Pearce C
06-06-06, 05:10 AM
Single. Drivers facing drivers for this application. All horn loaded, JBL speakers all around except for the horns.
DJ Shane
06-06-06, 11:12 AM
Uhh I don't see any horns except for the ones in the mains.
Shane he means "folded horn".
Pearce C
06-06-06, 07:28 PM
Shane he means "folded horn".
Yup :D
DJ Shane
06-06-06, 08:11 PM
:hammer: Drrrrr. I shoulda known that.
You guys need to specify. If I was a female I'd be blonde. Haha.
DJHolmz
06-12-06, 10:08 AM
http://www.freewebs.com/groovyproductions/equipment.htm
WOW, Nice truss setup and lightshow. :bing:
djlunatiko
06-12-06, 05:02 PM
What's up Yall I'm new so I'll see if this works
<img src="http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6083/djsetup2pk.png">
djlunatiko
06-12-06, 05:02 PM
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/6083/djsetup2pk.png
DJLUNATIKO....
Nice set up! Are those Carvins I see? If so, how do they sound? I've been thinking of buying a pair of the 1588's which are the big brother to the 1584's...Would I be dissapointed?
DJ Pyro
06-12-06, 08:44 PM
djlunatiko does that Aggressor (If thats which one it is) work pretty good for you?
Pyro...if you like the aggressor effect...try getting a Kinta by Chauvet as it doesn't have a duty cycle plus it's DMX incase you go that route in the future.
DJ Pyro
06-12-06, 09:57 PM
yea I already know about the Kinta thats the next effect I'm getting after
I order my par cans, and strobe light.
DJ Shane
06-12-06, 10:52 PM
Nice PA man. What cabs are those?
And welcome to the forums.
djlunatiko
06-13-06, 11:15 AM
Thanks for the feedback, I've heard mixed opinions about Carvin Speakers but I bought them used about 2 1/2 years ago and they've worked great, they're not to heavy and they have very clear sound at a pretty good price. My Agressor is the Shiznik man, it lights up the room, the electra is also very nice. 2 Agressors look even better though. It's recommended that they run for 15 min and off for 15 min to increase lamp life.
Cheap Charley
06-17-06, 08:28 PM
Well yeah I know it looks shabby but Im constantly doing something that involves moving things around and bunching my wires to gether or hiding them wouldnt exactly work for me.
My rack is homemade and I just painted it last week. I still owe $240 and have no income so buying more gear for it isn't an option and making fillers is something I dont care to try because I have stuff that I set on top of my EQ in that space and Im not that skilled. And my amp doesn't really get too hot.
Yeah I mobile.
All in all I never posted sooner because as I figured would happen I feel like a retarded noob now but I guess I deserve it. I wanted equipment so bad that I bought what I could find in the places I have around here (no Dj stores). I found out about a new Guitar Center an hour away not long after purchasing all my stuff and then I found some good gear sites. I could have kicked myself when I found out. But believe me if I could start over from scratch I would have an awesome set up. I have to deal and ugrade with what I have for now tho.
Hey don't feel bad, I've been into DJ gear since the 1970s & my system looks like a mess at home. My rack is also home made & we both have the same amplifier. (I also got my Gemsound speakers from Radio Shack.) Had I had the internet back then, I would have never bought them. At $300 for the amplifier & $250 per speaker (plus tax), I could of gotten a better amp & speakers online.
(currently pawned)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/th_0134028.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/0134028.jpg)
I usually set these on top of the Gemsound speakers at parties, unless I have room to spread the speakers out.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/th_0134044a.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/0134044a.jpg)
(currently pawned)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/th_0134004a.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/0134004a.jpg)
Off topic, but this is what's in the cabinet that is beside the mobile CD player rack.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/th_0134048a.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/0134048a.jpg)
DJ Shane
06-17-06, 08:33 PM
Cool man. It doesn't look that bad. I didn't know Kenwood used to make speakers for Live Sound use.
I still have that amp but I was able to purchase a used QSC RMX 850 from eBay so now Im going to work on selling it.
Cheap Charley
06-17-06, 08:41 PM
I didn't know Kenwood used to make speakers for Live Sound use.
I still have that amp but I was able to purchase a used QSC RMX 850 from eBay so now Im going to work on selling it.
QSC is my favorite brand, although I have never owned one. But when I upgrade my amp, it will be a QSC.
Those Kenwood speakers are not for live sound, they are home stereo speakers, but I've been taking them to parties for over twenty years.
DJ Shane
06-17-06, 09:26 PM
Not for live sound? Really? Hmmm they look kinda high tech for home stereo. Not like my Kenwoods.
Cheap Charley
06-17-06, 11:01 PM
Not for live sound? Really? Hmmm they look kinda high tech for home stereo. Not like my Kenwoods.
Believe it or not Kenwood calls them book shelf speakers, despite the fact that they are 29" tall & 18.5" wide. :lol:
They only sold them in overseas military PXs & BXs. I tested all the speakers that the PX & BX sold back then (Bose, JBL, Cerwin Vega, Polk, Infinity, Yamaha, to name a few.) and they sounded the best to me.
Since I was using Bose 901 speakers before I bought the Kenwood speakers, I was blown away with how hard the bass hit & how crisp the highs were.
Now that I've heard the JBL SRX738 speakers at a musical store, my Kenwood speakers sound like crap to me.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/th_ScanKLA900X1.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/ScanKLA900X1.jpg)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/th_ScanKLA900X2.jpg (http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/BC1/ScanKLA900X2.jpg)
dj_apocalypse7
06-20-06, 07:36 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/apocalypse7/MiddleRoboticsComp014.jpg
Numark Axis 8
Numark DXM Mixer
MacBook Pro 15" Maxed Out
Old Stereo Receiver
Surge Protector
DJ 25c hotwings
06-20-06, 08:56 PM
Yo, check it, this is just for weddings and office parties.
I got another one for scratching.
Just a dual cd player setup to a rane 2ch mixer.
I also got a wireless headset microphone, for when I walk out of the booth and hand out hot wings to the crowd. I save money on catering costs, because I fry up all my hot wings in the booth.
DJ Shane
06-20-06, 09:33 PM
Nice wings man.
Here is my shotty set-up from a friends graduation party. I took it with a camera phone. The tags are:
-Wireless Mic
-EV Mic
-Pioneer Home speakers
-NEW Peavey Mixing board
-Got t wal-mart. The stand is a bathroom metal cart/shelf. Its really strong and for what I need ok.
Cheap Charley
06-23-06, 11:19 AM
Yo, check it, this is just for weddings and office parties.
I got another one for scratching.
Just a dual cd player setup to a rane 2ch mixer.
I also got a wireless headset microphone, for when I walk out of the booth and hand out hot wings to the crowd. I save money on catering costs, because I fry up all my hot wings in the booth.
I like that coffin. :tup: Looks pretty heavy though, do you have a hard time getting it up & down stairs? Does it have wheels, or do you use a 2 wheel hand cart to move it?
http://67.131.250.107/~deftunes/setup/gigs/prgrad%20001s.jpg
http://67.131.250.107/~deftunes/setup/gigs/prgrad%20002s.jpg
http://67.131.250.107/~deftunes/setup/gigs/prgrad%20003ss.jpg
Final Scratch 2
Dell 700m Laptop
JBL Stereo speakers
JBL Eon G2s
DJ Shane
06-23-06, 06:33 PM
Here is my shotty set-up from a friends graduation party. I took it with a camera phone. The tags are:
-Wireless Mic
-EV Mic
-Pioneer Home speakers
-NEW Peavey Mixing board
-Got t wal-mart. The stand is a bathroom metal cart/shelf. Its really strong and for what I need ok.
Not bad. If that's what works for you. :tup:
By the way man what is your sound source.
Cheap Charley
06-24-06, 10:09 AM
Not bad. If that's what works for you. :tup:
By the way man what is your sound source.
His public profile says...
Equipment Setup:
2 GMI-1312 Speakers 1 Gemini PMX-1000 mixer iPod Video Laptop
So I'm goona guess he has his iPod Video Laptop hooked up to his mixer.
DJ Shane
06-24-06, 10:17 AM
His public profile says...
Equipment Setup:
2 GMI-1312 Speakers 1 Gemini PMX-1000 mixer iPod Video Laptop
So I'm goona guess he has his iPod Video Laptop hooked up to his mixer.
Lol ok but I think that means an iPod Video and a Laptop. Not an iPod Video Laptop
His public profile says...
Equipment Setup:
2 GMI-1312 Speakers 1 Gemini PMX-1000 mixer iPod Video Laptop
So I'm goona guess he has his iPod Video Laptop hooked up to his mixer.
My profile needs updating. I still use a laptop, but My main source is a numark CDN35 cd player. My iPod is for backup.
Cheap Charley
06-24-06, 11:01 AM
My profile needs updating. I still use a laptop, but My main source is a numark CDN35 cd player. My iPod is for backup.
If you have any where near the bad luck I've had with CDN-33 & CDN-90, you are definitely going to need that back up.
DJ Brian B
06-27-06, 10:27 AM
Hey guys, new to this forum, not to the world of DJing. Been at it for around three years now.
www.freewebs.com/djbrianb
Tell me what you think of my site and my rig.
Pyle Pro 1910 4 channel Mixer
Gemini CD9500 PRO II Dual CD Player
QSC MX700 amp
brand new SKB case
2x Pyramid 12" 300 watt speakers
http://www.topdjgear.com/gemini-gt-1502.html
Gonna change to these speakers soon, like the bigger woofer, and easier for better driver upgrades, and like the speaker stand hole, mine don't have that
Brian,
Just quickly looking over your site, I noticed several spelling errors. You may want to double check that. Overall, your site mentions nothing about lighting. Do you have any? Have you had any problems with your Gemini and Pyle gear?
DJ Pyro
06-27-06, 11:40 AM
Brain,
Have you had any problems with your Gemini and Pyle gear?
yea I was wondering the same thing. Both brands really don't favor
too well on these forums. If its been working out fine then thats cool
but you might want to look into denon or pio for cd players. They both
are top of the line and look great too.
DJ Shane
06-27-06, 11:49 AM
Yea first thing I noticed was the Gemini cd player, pyle speakers, and the iPod. :uhoh:
DJ Brian B
06-27-06, 12:29 PM
Thanks for the feedback, about the site, a friend of mine was "helping" by cleaning it up a bit, looks like i'm gonna have to get on him to fix it.
The gemini CD player has worked out great, I got it used from a club that closed down here in Charlotte, I took it in to have it checked, and the lenses cleaned. No problems what so ever for anything. My only complaint is that its older, and doesn't play CD-RW or MP3 CDs, thats why I use an iPod sometimes.
I am planning to upgrade my speakers real soon, these have held up well for the past three years, the horns are starting to act weird so I'm gonna upgrade to some nice 15" speakers soon. Suggestions would be appreciated. Don't wanna go over 200 bucks a speaker if thats reasonable.
-site should be fixed now got the admin password and fixed it myself :)
As far as the lighting goes, I'm workin on gettin the sound part of my system where I want before I invest in lighting.
DJ Shane
06-27-06, 01:12 PM
If you can't go over $200 a speaker then you might wanna save some more. Anything you can find for under that isn't going to be that great.
DJ Brian B
06-27-06, 02:06 PM
I can go over $200, but have my eye on some other stuff also, trying to split my budget up a bit to get this rig finished.
Cheap Charley
06-27-06, 02:21 PM
I am planning to upgrade my speakers real soon, these have held up well for the past three years, the horns are starting to act weird so I'm gonna upgrade to some nice 15" speakers soon. Suggestions would be appreciated. Don't wanna go over 200 bucks a speaker if thats reasonable.
Myself personally, I think Gemsound speakers sound better than Gemini speakers. And if you're talking about speakers for under $200, Gemini, Gemsound & B-52 are probably about your best bet.
Myself personally, I think the Gemsound GSP-15 is about the best sounding speaker for under $200.
http://topdjgear.com/gem-gsp-15.html (They go over budget if you order them from this site. When you include shipping & handling, they run $224.90)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/bishyboshy/dj/Gemsound_GSP-15.jpg
If you want to mount your current speakers on speakers stands, you can buy mounting brackets & screw them into the bottom of your speakers.
Naturally it's best to save up & buy some good professional speakers, but if that's not an option I think you should get the Gemsound GSP-15.
DJ Pyro
06-27-06, 02:23 PM
yea you will need to invest more than $200 for some quality speakers
you will notice a major difference when you have quality audio, you
will have more clarity in your system which will make your guest happier
b/c they can hear the music better.
DJ Brian B
06-27-06, 02:25 PM
Wow those look like they would hold me for a few years, long enough to save up for some Yorkville or somthin. Thanks Charley
Got a quick question to add, I've herd that if you run a speaker with less watts than the RMS it can damage it. Is this true? I've never had a speaker with a high enough RMS to test it. :D
DJ Pyro
06-27-06, 09:55 PM
Wow those look like they would hold me for a few years, long enough to save up for some Yorkville or somthin. Thanks Charley
Got a quick question to add, I've herd that if you run a speaker with less watts than the RMS it can damage it. Is this true? I've never had a speaker with a high enough RMS to test it. :D
actually since ur in Charlotte you may be able to get some good speakers
now and that way you won't have to worry about spending more money in
the long run upgrading again. Head over to Sam Ash off Tyvola. They
normally have some used gear that you can buy. Also check out SE Systems
which is on Independence. They sell really nice equipment and prices are
great (trust me I'm getting a new audio setup from them). They also have
used gear for sell.
yes you should always run your speakers at least at its RMS... you do NOT
want to underpower your speakers, its better to overpower. On the same
note its pretty much pointless to have nice speakers but use a bad amp
to power them, they won't sound as nice and they may not get the power
they need. Since your in Charlotte send me a PM and I might be able to hook
you up with a few folks selling gear. I'm in Greensboro now but I'm from QC
and I'll prolly be home for the weekend since its the 4th of july weekend
DJ Brian B
06-28-06, 06:54 AM
Thanks Pyro, will do!
Thanks everybody for helpin me out with my system! Been great!:tup:
DavesDJ
06-28-06, 10:13 AM
DJ Brian, very Nice setup. I like your web site as well. How long have you been DJing? I'm just starting up my own business.
David
DavesDJ
06-28-06, 10:48 AM
DJ Brian,
Sorry..Dumb me didn't read your previous post fully....or I would have seen that you have been DJing for 3 years...
Welcome to the forums.
I just purchased a new Odyssey 6 space rack to replace my home built rack which holds the Mixer, CD players and Amp. Its too big and awkward to lug around.
Dave
DJ Brian B
06-28-06, 02:52 PM
Hey DavesDJ, thanks! Yea, I am still in the starting phase of the business, don't have many gigs now, hope to get more in the future with new speakers.
I really like the Odyssey racks, almost got one but SKB was recommended to me by a fellow mobile DJ. Nice racks, but I really like the hard top Odyssey cases have, SKB gives you a padded dust cover, not the best for traveling, i have to be extra careful.
d3vi0uz
06-28-06, 03:21 PM
for those who want a decent and LOUD speaker but are on a budget (and dont want to buy used equipment) i highly suggest Behringer B300s.
i know alot of people here dont like Behringer, but tha B300s are actually a fine piece of work. probably Behringer's only good thing.
they are active/powered so mobile work is convenient. ive been using them for way over a year now and they are rugged. i certainly DID NOT baby these things. well, i tried, but after tha first 4 or so gigs, they got abused. ive dropped them out of car trunks onto pavement many many times and they still sounded fine. they are tough and durable. of course, everythings has its limits. as long as youre not launching these things out of your car, they should last you a while. and watch your red/green lights on tha front and back of tha speakers so you dont clip and you will be fine.
if youre on a budget, these are right up your alley at only $300 a piece. and since theyre active, you dont need an amp or anything else. its just plug and play. for house parties these things rock. set up and tear down is seamless and allows for more time and energy to be focused on other things. they throw long and get good SPL. low end is really good considering its only $300, powered, and a rubber/plastic cabinet. they have mounting sockets on tha bottom so i prop them up on speaker stands and get really good coverage. I would recommend these over any passive low end speaker in tha $200-$300 range.
if you do choose B300s, i suggest you do business with American Musical Supply as they are tha only authorized dealer that provides free shipping (most online sites that offer free shipping wont apply to these things and will even add extra fees for weight.) not only that, AMS gives you an extended warranty for free.
http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-BEH-B300--m-9_32_385--d-2.html
i would definitely recommend these over some JBL EON G1s (though tha G2s and B300s are similar in quality in my opinion) but these cost a small fraction of that price.
DJ Pyro
06-29-06, 11:27 AM
Hey DavesDJ, thanks! Yea, I am still in the starting phase of the business, don't have many gigs now, hope to get more in the future with new speakers.
I really like the Odyssey racks, almost got one but SKB was recommended to me by a fellow mobile DJ. Nice racks, but I really like the hard top Odyssey cases have, SKB gives you a padded dust cover, not the best for traveling, i have to be extra careful.
best cases IMO are Road Ready... not really a good price but man do they
take hits, drops, spills, and mine still look new and I've had them about a
year and a half now. Mine are black with the sliver trim. I'll most a pic friday
after my gig.
DJ D3CIB3L
07-02-06, 06:14 AM
I personally like Gator cases. Though they look butt ugly when the covers are on, they do a good job. I did consider the Road Ready cases but what drove me away was the fact that the 3 stores I went to (as well as online retailers) were out of stock of 6x10 RU and that the design of the rack rails on top were not that likable. You see, the rack rails that are placed to hold your mixer/cd player control unit, etc. are not guarded. I dont like how there are no edges to them to protect the own edges of your gear. Thats just my opinion.
Oh yes, Shane- I saw the light stand that you used in your second Grad party gig. Does it hold up well? I have 2 Omega I's and am thinking of adding 2 Martin Destroyers or 2 Omega II's and I am looking for a light tree that isnt $150 to do the job well. How is your light tree?
DJ Shane
07-02-06, 06:32 AM
The lighting stand. It's decent. Light metal and plastic but you get what you pay for. Still, it holds up well. For 4 lights, u should be fine. Hey $50 for a light stand isn't bad considering it isn't crap. I got it as a christmas gift but I happened to know it was ordered from Musiciansfriend and is the same brand. If those post sounds in any was like I'm drunk.......I'm not. I just waked up.
DJ D3CIB3L
07-03-06, 07:01 PM
I just waked up.
Sure you did.:freak:
LMFAO thats what you want me to think.
But anyway, thanks for the info.
DJHolmz
07-06-06, 02:10 PM
Brain,
Just quickly looking over your site, I noticed several spelling errors. You may want to double check that. Overall, your site mentions nothing about lighting. Do you have any? Have you had any problems with your Gemini and Pyle gear?
You misspelled his name :lol:
DJ Shane
07-06-06, 02:20 PM
Sure you did.:freak:
LMFAO thats what you want me to think.
But anyway, thanks for the info.
Lol no prob.
You misspelled his name :lol:
:whacked: :whacked: :P :lol: :lol: About time someone caught it! Haha. Funny I mention him having spelling errors and I can't spell his name.
clickclickw00t
07-07-06, 11:45 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b207/spike00012/P1010110.jpg
Here's my setup
2 lx-218s by B-52
1 x plx 1804 amp
1 behringer djx700
1 x Gemini CFX 40
1 x Sony Vaio Notebook
1 x Ipod Video
2x Chauvet Omega I
1 x Chauvet GoboMix II
Furman Power Condition
Hope you like it.
d3vi0uz
07-08-06, 04:02 AM
how are you liking those B52s?
any comments on their sound quality?
Those speakers look huge!! Maybe it's just the skinny stand they are on. I can't comment on those specific B-52 speakers, but the ones I have, sound amazing. For the price, you can't beat it.
clickclickw00t
07-08-06, 11:38 AM
how are you liking those B52s?
any comments on their sound quality?
I really love them. They have 18 inch woofers so I don't even need a sub right now. The bass response is great and is actually better than the JBLs. I personally think JBL makes the worst DJ equipment and the only reason everyone buys them is becuase they are overrated and "look proffessional". I'd rather have better sound quality than aestetic quality but that's just me. One thing that kinda bothers me is that, outside, the sound disperses pretty quickly, especially in the pool area I setup in. If I turn the volume up, the sound goes far, but then standing next to the speakers WILL blow your eardrum.
As for the size, they weight about 90 - 100 pounds each. They are really amazing and for $250 each you can't go wrong. THey are 550W RMS and 1100W Peak each, which is plenty of power. I just love the dual 18 inch woofers. They really give nice bass without the addition of a sub. B52s are really amazing, and I would take them any day over JBLs.
DJ D3CIB3L
07-08-06, 02:11 PM
I think personally that 18in drivers loaded into a full range cab is much too overkill. Not to mention, where would the mids be? Not unless you have a 3 way cab would there be a good share of mids and highs as well as lows.
Why is JBL so bad? A MRX or SRX (even just an Mpro400) system set up properly can outperform those B-52's. If your experience with JBL involves the EON series, then that doesnt count as they are garbage when used as mains monitors.
JBL's arent overrated- and if they are- its because they live up to their usefulness and name.
clickclickw00t
07-08-06, 02:27 PM
Well, actually, my next door neighbor is one of the biggest audio distrubors in the tri-state area. He actually owns a high-end Italian Speaker company (I forget the name). This guy has the newest technologies and amps lying around all over his house. He has a 1U rack amp that pushes 6000 watts to each channel - its ridiculous.
I was talking to him about DJ equipment, and he said whatever you do, do not get JBL. They are the most overpriced, overated, POS speakers you can buy.
I guess people have their own opinions, but this guy has been in the audio industry since he was 18, and he's about 45 now. Personally, I would take his advice.
If you're gonna disagree with me, just don't flame me for it....
d3vi0uz
07-08-06, 03:15 PM
i wouldnt say JBL is bad, but there is alot better. JBL is overpriced in my opinion.
there are alot better options than JBL in different price ranges/classes...
DJ D3CIB3L
07-08-06, 11:48 PM
there are alot better options than JBL in different price ranges/classes...
For Example- EAW, FBT, Martin Audio, Turbo Sound, ServoDrive-just to name a few.
ClickClick- I believe you. But that man might say not to get JBL because he is thinking so High-End. He ranks so high up there that JBL isnt even part of the picture anymore. His spectrum is of the high end pro audio far from the store bought consumer and pro-sumer items. And, I'd wouldnt say that guy is lying, but I'd be a bit skeptical about that amp he is talking about. It might be a bit exaggerated and unrealistic if you really think of it.
I didnt mean to flame- I'm sorry it came out that way. But if that guy wont recommend JBL- then I dont know where B-52 would rank. But thats just my point of view.
DJ Brian B
07-09-06, 10:23 AM
Hey guys, i've still been looking around considering my options for speakers, and I came across the speakers here
http://djsupply.com/proddetail.asp?prod=CerwinVegaint152
for $185 each.
Good deal? Worth it?
DJ Shane
07-09-06, 02:00 PM
I don't see where that $185 deal is but Cerwin Vega isn't bad. If you can get them for that much then I say go for it.
DJ Shane
07-09-06, 02:01 PM
O and clickclick, the only company I've heard of that makes 1 RU amps that claim to put out thousands of watts is Technical Pro. And they are poop. :uhoh:
clickclickw00t
07-09-06, 02:55 PM
O and clickclick, the only company I've heard of that makes 1 RU amps that claim to put out thousands of watts is Technical Pro. And they are poop. :uhoh:
Well its actually not for DJ equipment but for high - end home audio use.
DJ Shane
07-09-06, 03:21 PM
What are you referring to?
DJ Brian B
07-10-06, 12:12 PM
I could maybe see some equipment made like that for concert halls, and stadiums, but 6000 watts per channel? Thats pushing it, for an amp of that wattage, it wouldn't fit in 1u would it? Maybe 2-4u with quality. :confused: Why would anybody want 12000 watts for their home theater?
DJ Shane
07-10-06, 01:03 PM
Exactly. Thats how you tell the good quality gear from the junk.
clickclickw00t
07-10-06, 08:02 PM
I could maybe see some equipment made like that for concert halls, and stadiums, but 6000 watts per channel? Thats pushing it, for an amp of that wattage, it wouldn't fit in 1u would it? Maybe 2-4u with quality. :confused: Why would anybody want 12000 watts for their home theater?
Actually, the higher wattage you have, the more clear the sound is. For example, in a studio setting, if the studio monitors are rated at 100watts each, its not uncommon for them to be running off of a 400 or 500 watt amp. Maybe even more in some cases. Have that extra wattage gives sound clarity.
wave180
07-10-06, 08:51 PM
We are using Cerwin Vega L/SL 36, JBL 4818, 4515 speakers housed on W-bins folded horn enclosures and Crown's Power Base Micro/ Macro-tech amps since late 80's (back in the Philippines) and those set-up are Mobile disco's first choice because of their proven reliability. Check-www.stageaccompany.com to have an idea. But now my friends are using P-Audio speakers-much cheaper but almost same performance.
Our mobile name is AudioNetwork Lights and Sound and my friend's: Powerlights mobile, EDL Mobile, Turbomix Mobile, Alex Professional Lights and Sounds, Genesis Mobile, Musicbox Sound System II and etc. :D
DJ Shane
07-11-06, 11:32 AM
Actually, the higher wattage you have, the more clear the sound is. For example, in a studio setting, if the studio monitors are rated at 100watts each, its not uncommon for them to be running off of a 400 or 500 watt amp. Maybe even more in some cases. Have that extra wattage gives sound clarity.
Lay off the drinking.
djthunder
07-11-06, 12:34 PM
I think personally that 18in drivers loaded into a full range cab is much too overkill. Not to mention, where would the mids be? Not unless you have a 3 way cab would there be a good share of mids and highs as well as lows.
Why is JBL so bad? A MRX or SRX (even just an Mpro400) system set up properly can outperform those B-52's. If your experience with JBL involves the EON series, then that doesnt count as they are garbage when used as mains monitors.
JBL's arent overrated- and if they are- its because they live up to their usefulness and name.
You know, DJ D3CIB3L, you sure can dish it out, but you can't take it now can you. I've seen you pushing JBL in a number of threads now. Have you got stock in them or what? I don't think JBL is all that bad personally, but I do think the price is a bit high on some of their gear. If the price was more representative of the value, they would probably be respected more. Kind of like a Ford Explorer is a nice vehicle (least I think), but if it was priced like it was painted in gold, people would call it crap and overrated. Point being, no, JBL isn't bad, but the price is a bit higher than it should be.
Now you can respond by telling someone else how bad their gear, and how awesome JBL is all you want. That will remain my opinion.
I think alot of people are cracking on B-52 because it is a somewhat new name still. JBL, CV and the like all started somewhere and I'm sure where not taken to at first. I personally have heard the majority of speaker brands and B-52 is right up there. Alot of people think, oh, it costs $550 a box, but these JBL's cost $1,200 a box, the JBL's have a rep, and they have to be better cuz look at that price. Not true. Go HEAR them at a dealer/distributor and then you can comment on how a JBL would blow them away. I think their a fairly close comparison.
/rant
DJ D3CIB3L
07-11-06, 12:45 PM
I totally see where you are coming from thunder. No, I dont keep them in stock- but I do spread the word about them because they are good- at least better than other rivaling brands out there. And also, I never (at least almost always) never pay retail for my gear. I got my JBL's for two thirds of what you would normally pay in the store. Obiviously the price is high- its because JBL is riding their name and reputation- and thats the same with all the Harman companies. Look at DBX. It doesnt cost $500 for a DriveRack PA. It should cost much less, IMO.
But anyway, the only reason why I support JBL is because it's what I use and what many others use and it actually stands up to being used. Its pretty much a standard- and people out there actually know the JBL name. They've been around for some time now- and they have been doing a great job (EON series is exempted)
Sure, if I do purchase a set of EAW's for myself and start saying those are good- someones eventually going to tell me its not good to represent EAW becasue they cost too much to begin with anyway.
So whatever one does- someone will always be there to criticize- no matter who that someone may be.
clickclickw00t
07-11-06, 01:42 PM
Lay off the drinking.
DJ Shane, please explain how I'm wrong.
DJ Shane
07-11-06, 02:00 PM
Actually, the higher wattage you have, the more clear the sound is. For example, in a studio setting, if the studio monitors are rated at 100watts each, its not uncommon for them to be running off of a 400 or 500 watt amp. Maybe even more in some cases. Have that extra wattage gives sound clarity.
If your powering 100W monitors with a 400 or 500W amp you should be kicked in the nuts. You'll easily pop them suckers with that much power and there is no need for it.
Now......wattage. Watts are a power measurement. Not a sound clarity or loudness measurement. You must look at a speaker's SPL for loudness. A speaker with a higher SPL is going to sound louder at 100 watts input than a speaker with lower SPL at 100 watts input. And....some cabs might require 600 watts to achieve lets say 122 db while other might only need 450 watts to achieve 122 db. Watts are only a power measurement.
Now granted if you have an amplifier that is starved for AC current it isn't going to generate some very clean power to feed to your speakers. But that still doesnt have much effect on your sound clarity.
If you take a speaker cabinet built with the shittiest components and plug it in and it sounds horrible pumping more watts into is going to make it sound any less crappy. It will probably make it sound worse.
Each speaker has a power rating. There is peak or max, program which is usually about half of the peak, and RMS or continous which is about 1.5 to 2 times less than program. You should pick and amp that can deliver the program power of the speakers. Or about 1.5 to 2 times the RMS of a speaker. This will ensure that a speaker is getting a sufficient amount of power.
If your speakers are shit in clarity. They are shit period. More watts will do nothing.
clickclickw00t
07-11-06, 02:05 PM
I know that. However, in studios, the amps for the passive speakers are almost always at least twice the power of the speakers.
From my knowledge, the more wattage an amp has, the clearer sound it will produce on your speakers. At least that's what everyone has told me, even QSC when I called them recently.
DJ D3CIB3L
07-11-06, 02:16 PM
From my knowledge, the more wattage an amp has, the clearer sound it will produce on your speakers.
Your probably right. Thats probably because you wouldnt need to clip a lower wattage amplifier to get the SPL you want. I guess the logic behind that theory is that the higher rated amp need not be pushed to get the desired SPL.
DJ Shane
07-11-06, 02:17 PM
Well thats different than what you said before. And even so that still isnt exactly correct but I see what you're trying to say.
d3vi0uz
07-11-06, 03:14 PM
If your powering 100W monitors with a 400 or 500W amp you should be kicked in the nuts. You'll easily pop them suckers with that much power and there is no need for it.
uhm. no...
just because your amp is greater than your wattage on your speakers doesnt mean its going to blow. as long as you dont turn up your amp too high and keep tha knobs at a low setting then youre going to be fine.
this is BETTER. because then youre staying at your amps lowest power handeling without pushing its power rails while still reaching optimum efficiency on your speakers.
clickclickw00t
07-11-06, 03:44 PM
uhm. no...
just because your amp is greater than your wattage on your speakers doesnt mean its going to blow. as long as you dont turn up your amp too high and keep tha knobs at a low setting then youre going to be fine.
this is BETTER. because then youre staying at your amps lowest power handeling without pushing its power rails while still reaching optimum efficiency on your speakers.
Thank you exactly my point. :bing:
DJ Shane
07-11-06, 03:51 PM
uhm. no...
just because your amp is greater than your wattage on your speakers doesnt mean its going to blow. as long as you dont turn up your amp too high and keep tha knobs at a low setting then youre going to be fine.
this is BETTER. because then youre staying at your amps lowest power handeling without pushing its power rails while still reaching optimum efficiency on your speakers.
Right. A 200 watt amp on 100 watt speakers is just fine. And I could see possibly a 300 watts amp. But 400 to 500 watt amp on 100 watt speakers. You can keep the knobs low yes.........but shit happens. Thats all I'm sayin.
djthunder
07-11-06, 04:01 PM
Your probably right. Thats probably because you wouldnt need to clip a lower wattage amplifier to get the SPL you want. I guess the logic behind that theory is that the higher rated amp need not be pushed to get the desired SPL.
This is getting to the point of it. Using 100 Watt speakers, paired with a 400 or 500 Watt amp doesn't necessarily mean that you will be powering the 100 Watt monitors with 400 or 500 Watts. When you want truly represented audio, with no compression, and the full spectrum, as clean as you can get it, you want an amplifier with tons of headroom, that isn't being pushed at all, such that harmonic distortion is very low, and headroom allows for lots of dynamics in the music.
I don't know what the rule would be for amp power verses monitor ratings in a studio, but that would not be unreasonable, I wouldn't think.
Also, yet again, I will briefly explain that an RMS rating for an amp and speaker are different. The test is basically the same, but the limitations are different. An amplifier is hard limitted by it's voltage potential. If an amp's voltage potential is 70 volts, then it matter not whether the amp is running at 150 degrees F, or -50 degrees F, if the signal tries to push over 70 volts amplitude, the signal will clip at 70 volts, and distortion will occur.
For a speaker, on the other hand, it is all about (1) heat, and (2) excursion. Excursion is a tricky thing, as it depends greatly on the box, and of course the speaker design. In the right box, a speaker can go over it's thermal limit, and burn up the boil, without over-extending. The same driver in another box, might over-extend and pop out the cone at 300 Watts below it's thermal limit. So for this example, we will pretend that the driver and box design is such that over-extension is a non-issue. So let's talk about thermal limits. An RMS rating, is a continuous tone rating. Say they fire a 60 Hz tone through it, and let it go on for a set period of time, and they increase the output, until the woofer voice coil fries. In this case, it took 200 Watts of RMS power at 60 Hz. Okay, now let put some music program power through it. The song has a 60 Hz beat, at 120 BPM, that's 2 beats per second. This same speaker will now easily take 400 Watts power from that same amp. Why?? Because it is not being fed, and asked to produce 60 Hz continuously, but just 2 every second, leaving a lot of cool down time between beats (compared to a continuous tone, with no cool down time). Because of this "cool down time", the woofer handles more power than it does when being tested for RMS power.
Now remember, the amp is different. It has a voltage potential that stayes the same, regardless of what temp it is running at, so cool down time make no difference to it, it will still clip at the same power, whether it is music program, or a continous 60 Hz tone.
The rule is, you can generally put 1.5 to 2 times the RMS power rating of a speaker cab into it, as long as it is MUSIC PROGRAM, and not a continous tone.
clickclickw00t
07-11-06, 04:12 PM
This is getting to the point of it. Using 100 Watt speakers, paired with a 400 or 500 Watt amp doesn't necessarily mean that you will be powering the 100 Watt monitors with 400 or 500 Watts. When you want truly represented audio, with no compression, and the full spectrum, as clean as you can get it, you want an amplifier with tons of headroom, that isn't being pushed at all, such that harmonic distortion is very low, and headroom allows for lots of dynamics in the music.
I don't know what the rule would be for amp power verses monitor ratings in a studio, but that would not be unreasonable, I wouldn't think.
Also, yet again, I will briefly explain that an RMS rating for an amp and speaker are different. The test is basically the same, but the limitations are different. An amplifier is hard limitted by it's voltage potential. If an amp's voltage potential is 70 volts, then it matter not whether the amp is running at 150 degrees F, or -50 degrees F, if the signal tries to push over 70 volts amplitude, the signal will clip at 70 volts, and distortion will occur.
For a speaker, on the other hand, it is all about (1) heat, and (2) excursion. Excursion is a tricky thing, as it depends greatly on the box, and of course the speaker design. In the right box, a speaker can go over it's thermal limit, and burn up the boil, without over-extending. The same driver in another box, might over-extend and pop out the cone at 300 Watts below it's thermal limit. So for this example, we will pretend that the driver and box design is such that over-extension is a non-issue. So let's talk about thermal limits. An RMS rating, is a continuous tone rating. Say they fire a 60 Hz tone through it, and let it go on for a set period of time, and they increase the output, until the woofer voice coil fries. In this case, it took 200 Watts of RMS power at 60 Hz. Okay, now let put some music program power through it. The song has a 60 Hz beat, at 120 BPM, that's 2 beats per second. This same speaker will now easily take 400 Watts power from that same amp. Why?? Because it is not being fed, and asked to produce 60 Hz continuously, but just 2 every second, leaving a lot of cool down time between beats (compared to a continuous tone, with no cool down time). Because of this "cool down time", the woofer handles more power than it does when being tested for RMS power.
Now remember, the amp is different. It has a voltage potential that stayes the same, regardless of what temp it is running at, so cool down time make no difference to it, it will still clip at the same power, whether it is music program, or a continous 60 Hz tone.
The rule is, you can generally put 1.5 to 2 times the RMS power rating of a speaker cab into it, as long as it is MUSIC PROGRAM, and not a continous tone.
Rep for that post:tup:
However, one question about heat. If I'm DJing outside, such as my setup is on teh picture, and the sun is really strong, and the speakers are somewhat warm, should I be worried about them frying from overheating?
djthunder
07-11-06, 05:27 PM
Rep for that post:tup:
However, one question about heat. If I'm DJing outside, such as my setup is on teh picture, and the sun is really strong, and the speakers are somewhat warm, should I be worried about them frying from overheating?
I wouldn't be too overly worried about that, it'd have to be awefully hot for that to really play in as a factor.
d3vi0uz
07-11-06, 07:33 PM
Right. A 200 watt amp on 100 watt speakers is just fine. And I could see possibly a 300 watts amp. But 400 to 500 watt amp on 100 watt speakers. You can keep the knobs low yes.........but shit happens. Thats all I'm sayin.
yes, sh*t does happen....
if you turn up tha knob on tha amp...
but what you said made it seem as if you used a 400-500 watt amp PROPERLY, you would blow a speaker.
youre right, if tha knobs get turned up youll blow tha speakers. but thats not what it seemed like in your other post. all im saying is that you could use a high powered amp with low wattage speakers if you use tha amp APPRPRIATELY.
;)
Mr.Nightro
07-11-06, 08:08 PM
You can never have too much headroom, the reason being that extra headroom gives you plenty of room for future expansion.
DJ D3CIB3L
07-11-06, 08:20 PM
this is BETTER. because then youre staying at your amps lowest power handeling without pushing its power rails while still reaching optimum efficiency on your speakers.
I think thats what I tried to say in my earlier post. Thank you d3viouz for making the words easier to understand.
Shane- Arent you great at not admitting that you had part of your theory wrong? Geez. Getting things wrong and knowing you are wrong and learning what is right is the key to learning. At least, thats how I learn.
DJ Shane
07-11-06, 08:28 PM
Calm down bro. I've been busy today and I didn't have time to apologize and admit I was wrong. I guess I didn't realize there can't be too much headroom. And what click said earlier sounded like he was saying something else. Sorry for not understanding.
clickclickw00t
07-11-06, 11:16 PM
Calm down bro. I've been busy today and I didn't have time to apologize and admit I was wrong. I guess I didn't realize there can't be too much headroom. And what click said earlier sounded like he was saying something else. Sorry for not understanding.
No problem man, that's what forums are here for :tup:
DJ D3CIB3L
07-16-06, 08:12 PM
Here's a photo from a gig I did this afternoon. Also did a pool party last friday- I'll see if I can get those pics uploaded before I leave for vacation tomorrow afternoon.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9769/dsc0141100yf9.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0141100yf9.jpg)
clickclickw00t
07-16-06, 10:13 PM
Here's a photo from a gig I did this afternoon. Also did a pool party last friday- I'll see if I can get those pics uploaded before I leave for vacation tomorrow afternoon.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9769/dsc0141100yf9.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0141100yf9.jpg)
That is nice setup man. I really really love the black cover thing. Where did you buy it?
DJ D3CIB3L
07-17-06, 09:43 AM
Thanks for the appreciation. That black thing- its called a facade. Odyssey and Grundorf sells them but in my opinion they are too expensive and too thin anyways. I built that myself using the measurements of Odyssey- using 3/4 plywood instead of 1/2 like they do. All I did was buy a 4x8 from Home Depot, got it cut into two 18in peices and two 2.5ft peices. Bought some 3M super 77, some hinges, and some super black carpet from Parts Express and put it together from there. I also used removable pins down the middle piece to separate the facade into a smaller one to use for smaller gigs.
Here is a pic of another smaller pool party I did last Friday (with the half facade). Person in the pic is my assistant.
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/527/dsc0140400ql0.th.jpg (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc0140400ql0.jpg)
clickclickw00t
07-19-06, 05:44 PM
Smart man. Nice setup, and I love those stands. Wanted to buy them (becuase my speakers are so fuckn heavy) but I coulnt afford them for $108 each grrrr.
nice setup, u should build me a facade,,, for free lol
finally remembered my camera for a gig, took these pics....just the basic raw set-up nothing extra, lights aren't there or entire speakers set-up....just the essentials for a small party :)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/djsoco/DJ/002_2.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/djsoco/DJ/003_3.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/djsoco/DJ/004_4.jpg
DJ Pyro
07-30-06, 07:21 PM
^ ^ ^ nice and clean... I like the look of those cabs beside
your setup, they look extra clean. Do you have a case for
your amp or do you just carry it?
DJ Shane
07-30-06, 07:43 PM
Nice stuff man.
^ ^ ^ nice and clean... I like the look of those cabs beside
your setup, they look extra clean. Do you have a case for
your amp or do you just carry it?
Thanks....I've got a small rack carrying case for my amp and other stuff but it's actually sent of for warranty repairs because one of the rack rails got bent somehow :confused:
MvPrior22
08-01-06, 06:00 PM
http://www.freewebs.com/mixnmatchdj/
Here's my website. I just started up, and was wondering if you guys had and tips or advice you would like to share. I'm not exactly sure on pricing yet.
We did have a gig scheduled but it got cancelled. The people that were going to hire us backed out at the last second. They wanted to give us $50 to play for 3-4 hours. We said no way, but they wouldn't pay us anymore...
$50 for 3-4 hours is a joke...them backing out on you is exactly why you need a contract mate with specific guidelines where you get a deposit at the time of booking and if they don't cancel before a certain time period before the gig they must pay in full or they get dragged into court and have to pay your lawyer fees, court fees, and ll that good stuff :tup:
MvPrior22
08-01-06, 08:13 PM
Thanks for the advice N.O.C, but how do you make your contracts? Do you type them up? Also, do you think $150 is a good price for 3 hours when I first start out? Also, if you could check out the equipment and tell me what maybe needs to be upgraded that would be great.
Haha, sorry, asking way too much. Thanks for the help...
with the gear you have I'd be charging more than $150 but sometimes you gotta take small payments, as long as they aren't ridiculously small, to get some experience and to get your name out there. In my opinion though, I'd check around and see what the other local mobile DJ's are charging and charge a little less to get started and when your name is out there, charge a competitive price, but a higher one than you started with.
As far as the contracts go, I found a really basic one on the internet and expanded it to a 5 page contract myself and had a lawyer in my family take a look at it and give me his comments.
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