Remix, edit, or original?

[zaxl]

I'm working on a house song that is heavily based on cut-up vocal samples. The samples are from a song done by a reasonably well known singer. I'm not really sure how to label this song, or how much credit the original artist deserves. Here's the situation:

1. The samples are very short, and contain no actual words.

2. Each sample is taken completely out of the original context, and at times radically re-pitched, and used in conjunction with my own original drum and synth programming to make melodies that were never present in the original song.

3. Fans of this artist might recognize her voice, but would definitely never be able to identify which song the samples came from.

4. Without the samples my song would not be what is. They are absolutely crucial to the composition.

Is this a remix? Is it an edit? Should I even bother giving her credit?

[Finnish_Fox]

If you sampled someone else's music you give them credit. For example, hip hop songs that sample old rock songs aren't remixes and credit is not given to the sampled artist in the title of the track. If they are legit (i.e. commercial), it should have credit for the sample in the liner notes.

[DJ Elroy]

If I'm not mistaken, a remix is when you take the individual parts of a song (vocals, drums, horns, synths, guitars, whatever) and kind of make your own interpretation of the original. An edit is where you just cut & paste the original song and re-arrange the parts.

Sounds like you're just taking a sample and using it as a sound. I'd make it an original (see the classic vid below - they used a bunch of samples to make an "original" track)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo67bWkNEiE&feature=player_embedded

[Echoik]

Sounds like an original to me. Case and point:

Kastle - I Know

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The sample is immediately recognized (by me) as Janet Jackson - I Get So Lonely
Kastle is selling this as his own work, I'm sure he wouldn't mind giving Janet credit, if he had to. (AFAIK he hasn't, but has acknowledged on twitter his heavy use of sampling in his OG compositions.)

[zaxl]

thanks guys! that pretty much answers it. the samples i used are much less obvious than the Prodigy tune.

i guess i'll just call it an original and if it's ever put on a physical release, i can credit the singer there. my rep probably doesn't count but i'll give it out anyway :D

[Finnish_Fox]

Sounds like an original to me. Case and point:

Kastle - I Know

-J6W2olPqic

The sample is immediately recognized (by me) as Janet Jackson - I Get So Lonely
Kastle is selling this as his own work, I'm sure he wouldn't mind giving Janet credit, if he had to. (AFAIK he hasn't, but has acknowledged on twitter his heavy use of sampling in his OG compositions.)

He'd have to pay her for it if she recognizes it and sues him.

[Echoik]

I was just thinking of this today. You may be interested in this project: http://www.everythingisaremix.info/watch-the-series/

Interesting video series, regardless.

[thehadgi]

If I'm not mistaken, a remix is when you take the individual parts of a song (vocals, drums, horns, synths, guitars, whatever) and kind of make your own interpretation of the original. An edit is where you just cut & paste the original song and re-arrange the parts.

Sounds like you're just taking a sample and using it as a sound. I'd make it an original (see the classic vid below - they used a bunch of samples to make an "original" track)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo67bWkNEiE&feature=player_embedded

that's pretty awesome

reminds me of this i saw a while back :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI