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azarraga053
10-10-2013, 10:27 AM
Hey guys, Im working with an organization at my college, and am trying to book a decently big artist. I've been looking at his rider talking to different production companies, but his rider states that "Purchaser will provide and pay for a professional lighting system (minimum of 16,000K) and a qualified operator/lighting designer."

Does 16,000K here refer to brightness or actual cost of the light show? Sorry, just a bit confused as a small mobile DJ.

Thanks!

allensmusic
10-10-2013, 10:31 AM
well, since 16,000k would be $16 million dollars, I would assume it means the brightness.

it could also refer to the color spectrum, 16000k is a very bright blue.
in the modern age of LED lights, it would be a bit silly to only put the total wattage without specifying fixtures. since 16,000kw would also be a tremendous amount of electricity I would lean towards the idea of requiring some lights in the 16000k color spectrum.

allensmusic
10-10-2013, 10:33 AM
are you responsible for hiring the lighting person?

BillESC
10-10-2013, 11:42 AM
Having dealt with riders many times over the last 40 years I can tell you it means 16,000 watts of lighting and that the person who created the rider doesn't understand the business as it should have been written 16kW.

16kW is only 32 - 500w fixtures so not a very big show production wise.

allensmusic
10-10-2013, 11:46 AM
Having dealt with riders many times over the last 40 years I can tell you it means 16,000 watts of lighting and that the person who created the rider doesn't understand the business as it should have been written 16kW.

16kW is only 32 - 500w fixtures so not a very big show production wise.

Thank you, I have a hard time understanding typo's in a technical section of a form that instructs every venue on what to set up. I am starting to do local lighting gigs and i hope to start running into problems like this.
a wattage rating is silly, like you said, 32 500w cans would meet the requirement.
however, 16kw of led and lasers is a entirely different show.

azarraga053
10-10-2013, 11:48 AM
We're gonna be going through a huge company that is has dealt with tons of huge names, I just wanted to know what to expect, cost wise. The artist isnt a huge act to warrant a 20,000$ light show, so was just wondering. Im sure the company will know what it means.

azarraga053
10-10-2013, 11:49 AM
Thanks Bill, thats what I thought too. Should I inform the agency of the typo?