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Mahatma Coat
01-03-2013, 04:33 PM
Anyone know a decent garage compilation from the late 90s... That's not full of Wookie, So Solid Crew and Craig David?

When garage truly hit the UK I was into drum & bass and thought garage much too sugar sweet and pop orientated for my ears.

I'm hearing some wicked dark & bassy garage & two-step music being played by various DJs at the moment, (Oneman/Ben UFO/DJ EZ etc.) and I think I've missed a trick (for the most part they're playing old tracks); I want to get some old compilations from the late 90s-early 00s so I can scope out some classic tunes and pick them up on Discogs.

For e.g. I heard Elgato playing Norma Jean Bell's 'dreams' on Peacefrog records from 2001, its class, so I own a copy now.

Someone told me Pure Garage Vol 1 mixed by DJ EZ is good but the tracklist looks a bit suspect to me. Another one I've been recommended is Sound of the Pirates Vol 1 Mixed by Zed Bias, this is maybe more my style. Someone also said I should check out Todd Edwards' Inside The Mix: Locked On, but this was released in 96; though I'm sure its good, a lot of the tunes look like they're edits of pop releases, (e.g. Celine Dion???)

Anyone listening to Garage toward the end of the 1990s who could maybe let me in on their knowledge so I can go out and buy a decent compilation or two please?

Failing that just some quality tune suggestions from the 1997-2002 era would be appreciated.

Mahatma Coat
01-03-2013, 04:48 PM
Stuff like this:

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dlove
01-07-2013, 03:22 AM
I'm like you, Mahat', I didn't live in London at the time Garage hit, so I didn't get it, apart from MJ Cole & Zed Bias. You're on the right track with Oneman and Hyperdub :tup: I've learned loads about UK Garage from what they've been doing lately

Mahatma Coat
01-07-2013, 04:57 AM
Cheers DLove, I've been doing quite a bit of research on the internet the past week or so, so I'm getting there. I've actually found loads of useful info on Dubstep forums; they have a classic two-step / dark garage thread which has really been useful, maybe you want to take a look too:

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=43199

I've just been going through the tunes, and checking out the one's I like on Discogs and learning about the artists and labels, all v. interesting.

I dropped about a 100 quid on Discogs yeasterday, going to be having some lovely packages of dusty old(ish) vinyl delivered over the next couple of weeks, I love that feeling!

Here's some of the tracks I got:

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Also picked up Metalheadz Platinum Breaks Volume One & LTJ Bukum's Demon's Theme on vinyl, I love that old school drum & bass sound!

I've got a couple of gigs coming up over the next couple of months, so I'll get to rinse all these tracks out and about soon enough!

jaytoh
01-07-2013, 07:34 AM
Always hard with compilations most are shocking.

I would suggest Tuff Jam - Underground Frequencies Vol1 + 2. Todd Edwards had a decent one on Locked On I think it was. Personally wouldnt touch a Pure Garage.
For Horsepower etc have you tried dubstep allstars? Despite the title suggesting dubstep its more of the later dark garage

dlove
01-07-2013, 08:03 AM
@ mahat' - wicked! I always think January's the best time to go digging for old gems; got me inspired!

Mahatma Coat
01-07-2013, 08:35 AM
Always hard with compilations most are shocking.

I would suggest Tuff Jam - Underground Frequencies Vol1 + 2. Todd Edwards had a decent one on Locked On I think it was. Personally wouldnt touch a Pure Garage.
For Horsepower etc have you tried dubstep allstars? Despite the title suggesting dubstep its more of the later dark garage

Mate, these Underground Frequencies compilations are exactly what I've been looking for, nice one!

I've already got Dubstep All Stars Volumes 1 and 6, they've very different in style, but I love them both. Is there any volume you would recommend in particular for the dark garage sound?

jaytoh
01-07-2013, 09:56 AM
Only the Vol 1 for the kind of stuff your after. I got all of the Allstar albums but only listen to Vol 1 & 2 really.

The "dark" garage was always a strange one because it went 2 ways. 1 towards what is now the post dubstep era and secondly more towards grime.

Could always try this http://www.discogs.com/EZ-Pure-Garage-Presents-Bass-Breaks-Beats/release/337037

Otherwise not anything else I would recommend.

pete
01-07-2013, 11:19 AM
I was in London between 95-2000, so lived through the Dnb to Garage thing. Couldn't move for garage for quite a while.
There's a shed load of good records that came out during that time but it really is a matter of digging. And since all the good record shops closed down years ago...its gonna be tough.
Still ... I can point you in the directon of some choice cuts.
What you seem after is the dark stuff but not the speed garage sound like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTgwI1yQjV0
You probably want more breaks and 2step.
Maybe stuff like the Zinc stuff that came out around that time would be up your street. Or stuff like Deekline.
www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=P_XH-a6OopQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=P_XH-a6OopQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz_7q0EdG8Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-s32ESIR-4
But one of the points of this era is you can play terrible artists and still get people moving or play girly tracks, or tracks with vocals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEs7nsKbOqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t4mUlizRo0

but just keep digging around on youtube and discogs and you'll land on some stuff you like.
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Mahatma Coat
01-07-2013, 01:17 PM
Pete, cheers for these suggestions etc. I'm going to go through them and get back to you.

Listening to The Chant now and I'm actually really liking it, couldn't play a whole set of it but it would fit in nice with my house & techno records, real bassline pressure going on in there!

jaytoh
01-08-2013, 11:29 AM
I got some records im selling. I sold most of my collection years ago but just kept hold of my Todd Edwards & Tuff Jam collection aswell as anything else that was rare or limited from back then. I dont have turntables as I use CD's now and need the space

Mahatma Coat
01-09-2013, 07:31 AM
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To be honest mate, the best thing I reckon you posted is the tune by The Chant. I'm into Zink, but its not really the sound I'm looking for, more the skippy two step sound with some nice warm bass rolling throughout. I'll keep looking though, and cheers again for your suggestions!

Mahatma Coat
01-09-2013, 07:32 AM
I got some records im selling. I sold most of my collection years ago but just kept hold of my Todd Edwards & Tuff Jam collection aswell as anything else that was rare or limited from back then. I dont have turntables as I use CD's now and need the space

Yeah maybe if you list could list your records I could perhaps take a few off your hands if I like them. To be honest though I've just dropped a hundred quid on vinyl, so my vinyl funds are pretty much at zero for the foreseeable few weeks or so.