Will any of the current TT manufacturers ever license the 1200 tech from Panasonic?

[drumpusher]

in your opinion? Discuss

I think some decent manufacturer like Rane, they should seriously consider it.

[Hausgeist]

Quick reply: Doubt it.

[g-sep]

I think it will happen, but is it worth it? Probably not. Most people that spin vinyl are happy with their current setup, and all the new people getting started in this are using either CD's or controllers.

[drumpusher]

Personally, I predict a wave of nostalgia in maybe 15 years or less for the analogue DJ spinning to be hip and cool again. Once the digi-dj is so saturated people are so sick of it.

Just look at hipsters for example, your dad was one. And we all know how strong the allure of nostalgia is, just look at all the countless mixes being thrown up with a picture of a cassette on it. R_CO's mixes on soundcloud for example. Given the endless waves of talentless chodes getting into it nowadays maybe it'll be sooner than we all think.

Laugh all you want, but there were days on the original forum here where people were poked fun at because they suggested vinyl would cease to be popular. :teef:

[Hausgeist]

Personally, I'd love if that happened, especially if it drops the price of a single, new mk2 down from $900. :freak:

[g-sep]

^whats wrong with the Numarks haus?

[drumpusher]

This I can answer honestly having both owned a pair of numarks and technics, and initially learning to beatmatch on a pair of stantons. The build quality, the ruggedness and the difference in the wow and flutter on the motor. Plus the eternal itch of wanting to own technics when you don't own technics. :teef:

[Hausgeist]

^whats wrong with the Numarks haus?

Nothing. They work fine for me now, especially for only $50 per deck. Eventually, though, at some point they are going to give out, and I'll need a new pair of decks. It'd be nice to have Technics, but there is no way I can justify spending the current price on turntables. If my decks were to crap out today, I'd go for TTXs, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

[g-sep]

Nothing. They work fine for me now, especially for only $50 per deck. Eventually, though, at some point they are going to give out, and I'll need a new pair of decks. It'd be nice to have Technics, but there is no way I can justify spending the current price on turntables. If my decks were to crap out today, I'd go for TTXs, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

You good at repairing electronics? I always see some on craigslist that are busted, like start/stop doesnt work and what not for cheap. Wouldn't be a bad idea to get a fixer upper and see how it comes out.

[Rothgery]

There was some chatter a while back ago about another company picking up the Technics project - but I think its pretty much a dead scenario, If someone does - Im sure they would kill the namesake same as how Mackie kinda sucks now. Not the same thing, Mackie just sold to another manufacturer but still.

[Damon_Chambers]

the problem comes down to $. if panasonic didnt see profit in it and they had been carrying the technic line for boux coup years then i would imagine it would be very difficult for a smaller company to take up the name, run with it, and make the same quality product and still make a profit.

[Hausgeist]

the problem comes down to $. if panasonic didnt see profit in it and they had been carrying the technic line for boux coup years then i would imagine it would be very difficult for a smaller company to take up the name, run with it, and make the same quality product and still make a profit.

Exactly. Still, I'd like to think that at least some companies will still continue to produce turntables for djing i.e. Numark and Stanton. I've heard rumblings that Numark may be planning a TTX model with a built in dicer-esque section.

[Marc S]

if technics cant sell them (enough to make it economically viable), what makes you think a copycat company will? and no matter if they are identical, people will find a way to shit talk them and make them out to be not the real deal or fakes or not as good and sales will fall even further.

wont happen

[Andrew B]

The "problem" with 1200s/1210s, from Panasonic's POV, is that they last forever.

We're seeing more and more products with planned obsolescence. Tiny upgrades, etc. They really mishandled them, from a corporate standpoint. If they would've upgraded them once in a while with must-have features, then they might've had a chance at a continued existence. Not that I'm saying that's a good thing, but it was probably necessary.

[Marc S]

indeed, it was a victim of its own success, its major selling point was if anything the reason it died.

[xyloft]

the problem comes down to $. if panasonic didnt see profit in it and they had been carrying the technic line for boux coup years then i would imagine it would be very difficult for a smaller company to take up the name, run with it, and make the same quality product and still make a profit.

yeah...what concerns me is if some new maker licenses the 1200 name and then makes a shit table with shit insides.

[gr2daover]

one of the only features i can think of they added would be the no click when set at zero so you have a smooth slide in the pitch. noticed it on my mk5s the minute i got them, but that isnt a real must have tho and im sure people didnt drop there current techs just for that lol.

[Era 7]

don't think it would pay off enough. there are still tons of 1200 around. they have been produced for over 30 years.

[BuddyUK]

Was worried about the end of production of the mk2's so I bought another pair just to be on the safe side, pretty much set up for life now TBH.

[BuddyUK]

Biggest selling record players ever I believe.

[mostapha]

the problem comes down to $. if panasonic didnt see profit in it and they had been carrying the technic line for boux coup years then i would imagine it would be very difficult for a smaller company to take up the name, run with it, and make the same quality product and still make a profit.

See…that's the rub. And the reason why I don't get the used price spike. Technics 1200s wern't selling at their price. The used market was way too flooded to support pricing a 1200mk2 at like $600 new when you could buy a used one in great condition for $250.

Panasonic discontinued them because they couldn't move them.

Then, for some reason, prices skyrocketed…and everyone got scared and bought up what they could as if the plethora of extra 1200s just evaporated.

You know how long it took me to find a pair of mint condition m5gs when I decided to go back to turntables a couple weeks ago? 20 minutes. They also had mint and beaten up mk2s, which I bought 2 of, because the prices are still stupid high.

The only good thing about another company coming out with licensed 1200 copies is that it would stabilize the used prices back where they should be. I just hope it's a company I don't like so that I don't have to care when they go under or discontinue them.


The "problem" with 1200s/1210s, from Panasonic's POV, is that they last forever.

We're seeing more and more products with planned obsolescence. Tiny upgrades, etc. They really mishandled them, from a corporate standpoint. If they would've upgraded them once in a while with must-have features, then they might've had a chance at a continued existence. Not that I'm saying that's a good thing, but it was probably necessary.

Not necessary, IMHO, but definitely a better way to make money.

People bought the m5gs because they were a legit upgrade. There are things you could do with turntables that would be worth something (internal preamps, for starters…built-in SSL interfaces…stuff like that). Panasonic just never did them.

[BuddyUK]

Saw a brand new 1210 mk2 in it's box on ebay for £1000 before xmas

[epik1]

I have two decent condition and working 1200's right now, and they're just sitting cause I'm too broke for a mixer =( lol

I think it would be a very niche market right now if someone picked up 1200's and re-manufactured them.
Then there would also be the issues with QC if they're as good or better than the originals...not sure how they can be much better though, as they're built so well.

The way I see it, controllers are taking over like crazy. Especially with the dubstep trend now everyone just wants MIDI controllers and MPD's and the like.

[manythings]

I'd like to see it.. I'm looking to pick up another pair of techs but I'm apprehensive because of the price inflation. I picked up my pair of 1200s for $600 straight cash from a vinyl junkie a while back. There's no way I could see those prices anymore

[djnickhustle]

I doubt that anyone will pick up anything for Panasonic to start manufacturing Technic 1200's again.
There is still many "Brand new" technics out there that are sealed/boxed. "You just have to know where to look."
With that said, those are not even selling like wild fire...Bottom line is that there are so many people/companies out there that are customizing/refurbishing technics from anywhere of $900-$1400 a PAIR. These refurbished/custom technics are as good as brand new, every single part is flawless and everything works down to the bone for half the price...So why would anyone pay 1100-1200 for a single turntable when they can get a fresh refurbished/custom pair for less..

[lovecitydjs]

there are more 1200's on this planet then there are people who need them. that's for sure. even if Technics never makes another one, the used ones will still have more market share than Stanton and Numark.

[epik1]

I'd like to see it.. I'm looking to pick up another pair of techs but I'm apprehensive because of the price inflation. I picked up my pair of 1200s for $600 straight cash from a vinyl junkie a while back. There's no way I could see those prices anymore

Damn, I paid the same for mine both shipped, and I thought I got ripped off still =\

[monomer]

Soon as the panic settles down, they'll be back priced normally on the used market.


$500 for a single MK2 in decent shape because "they don't make them anymore" and are "rare"????


Technics made hundreds of THOUSANDS since the early 80's when the mk2 was introduced. "Rare" will NEVER happen in my lifetime.

[monomer]

For the record, I pay'd $375 for my pair of mk2's. Used, in decent shape.

It was less then 5 years ago.

[Hausgeist]

For the record, I pay'd $375 for my pair of mk2's. Used, in decent shape.

It was less then 5 years ago.

Thank you.

Now people are paying $1000 or more for a used pair. GTFO. :mad:

[Rothgery]

Soon as the panic settles down, they'll be back priced normally on the used market.


$500 for a single MK2 in decent shape because "they don't make them anymore" and are "rare"????


Technics made hundreds of THOUSANDS since the early 80's when the mk2 was introduced. "Rare" will NEVER happen in my lifetime.


I'm not sure that they will ever come back down, unless they start producing them again. Reasons being is, once the new "price standard" as been set - people that are selling them will keep the prices high so that to make a buck. If you had something that was worth 200$ and you know someone will pay 800$ for it, how much would you charge? Simple supply and demand.

[Hausgeist]

And people keep paying for them. It is ridiculous.