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Mahatma Coat
02-11-2012, 06:55 PM
Let's get a thread for this stuff people.

US/European, fast or slow we need to get the sparse minimal sounds down

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BuddyUK
02-13-2012, 06:54 AM
Rob Hood is minimal techno now? :confused: That said i do like the Villlalobos track, find miminmal techno, slow clicky and boring on the whole but there are some good trcks out there if you're willing to search them out.

This will always be the best minimal record ever IMO


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tDBhhEwgqY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPNniFbNf5U

propertrax
02-13-2012, 01:08 PM
Yeah, I'd call Robert Hood one of the pioneers of minimal techno, and he claims his music minimal.

Just because the vibes can be maximal doesn't mean the composition and production aren't minimal. Listen to most any Hood track and you'll find 5-8 individual elements at the most (kick, hat 1, hat 2, bass synth, atmosphere/pad, hook synth for example...dubbed and drenched with some reverbs, delays, etc...maybe)

In fact, producers like Hood, Function, Silent Servant, DVS1, even Chris Liebing qualify for the "minimal" moniker far moreso than the typical offerings in Beatport's "minimal" section (italian shuffle-rama, white noise surge prog tech, and minus-ish sinewave cave plonkers are usually what dominate and get tossed out at 'minimal' )

Minimal techno was being made by Hood, Wolfgang Voigt (aka Mike Ink, Gas), Hawtin, Dan Bell (DBX), and loads of other Detroit/Berlin cats in the early-to-mid '90s, and IMO, often hold up as the best of the style to this day.

That Trentemoller above, I'd not consider minimal personally. Especially the 1st track posted. Sure, he rose to prominence during that second minimal wave in the mid-2000s, and some of his tracks were definitely on the minimal tip...but I think a lot of the production and vibe is too big and polished to really consider it minimal.

Hausgeist
02-13-2012, 05:25 PM
This is more of a drum tool than a proper track imo, but I love it. It's great for mixing, especially to keep some beats going over another track's breakdown.

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monomer
02-13-2012, 06:21 PM
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/thread.

Hausgeist
02-13-2012, 06:45 PM
^ :love:

LoveBass
02-13-2012, 08:37 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv5YIL4MzHA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYRpC15VN7E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYyRTvxDRMo&feature=related

Last resort is my favorite Trentemoller I'm afraid

monomer
02-14-2012, 01:31 AM
Zone out, on repeat:

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BuddyUK
02-14-2012, 12:27 PM
Zone out, on repeat:

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Essential Double 12", it's in the collection bro


Yeah, I'd call Robert Hood one of the pioneers of minimal techno, and he claims his music minimal.

Just because the vibes can be maximal doesn't mean the composition and production aren't minimal. Listen to most any Hood track and you'll find 5-8 individual elements at the most (kick, hat 1, hat 2, bass synth, atmosphere/pad, hook synth for example...dubbed and drenched with some reverbs, delays, etc...maybe)

In fact, producers like Hood, Function, Silent Servant, DVS1, even Chris Liebing qualify for the "minimal" moniker far moreso than the typical offerings in Beatport's "minimal" section (italian shuffle-rama, white noise surge prog tech, and minus-ish sinewave cave plonkers are usually what dominate and get tossed out at 'minimal' )

Minimal techno was being made by Hood, Wolfgang Voigt (aka Mike Ink, Gas), Hawtin, Dan Bell (DBX), and loads of other Detroit/Berlin cats in the early-to-mid '90s, and IMO, often hold up as the best of the style to this day.

That Trentemoller above, I'd not consider minimal personally. Especially the 1st track posted. Sure, he rose to prominence during that second minimal wave in the mid-2000s, and some of his tracks were definitely on the minimal tip...but I think a lot of the production and vibe is too big and polished to really consider it minimal.

If he want's to lay claim to being the godfather of minimal, then I'm happy to go along with it, did not know that, why he'd want to associate himself with it I dunno, better than fucking Hawtin I suppose. Don't know for sure if stripping techno down to it's basics is that original an idea TBH seems to have always gone on as as a reaction to other music of the day, the everything but the kitchen sink sample-a-thon Rave/hardcore era or the overblown epics of the early techno/trance days. Electro whas often been as simple as possible, any Speedy J track with more than about 3 machines going would have blown his mind (and his plug socket probably). Personally have always pegged Robert Hood as Detroit artist TBH.


That Trentemoller above, I'd not consider minimal personally. Especially the 1st track posted. Sure, he rose to prominence during that second minimal wave in the mid-2000s, and some of his tracks were definitely on the minimal tip...but I think a lot of the production and vibe is too big and polished to really consider it minimal.

Only record of his I own/like i think, that could well explain why, could be wrong though, may have more of his stuff knocking about though.

monomer
02-14-2012, 05:46 PM
Stripping it down to basics?


Naw.


He had little money/machines to work with early on, and the sound stuck with him.

Paulie65m
02-14-2012, 07:12 PM
Let's get a thread for this stuff people.
US/European, fast or slow we need to get the sparse minimal sounds down
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The most brilliant man when it comes to sounds, and this track just proves it

Minilogue - The Leopard (extrawelt remix) my other fav vid and song
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Mahatma Coat
02-15-2012, 06:04 AM
I always thought of Hood as the guy who invented the minimal sound really.

I appreciate its different to the 00s Europeam minimal we all associate the genre with, but Hood was the first guy to really emphasise the minimal element in techno, as I understand it. I think you could probably state that Jeff Mills was instrumental to developing the minimal sound too tbh.

Some people went all big room with the sound, whilst others like Steve Bug and Hawtin followed the minimal route.

I still haven't figured out how to see repution points and who added them, but for whoever asked me about the minimal sound in Amsterdam, yeah its still quite big. It was massive a few years ago, but there's much more Detroit/Chicago style house around now, (I think this has a lot to do with Rush Hour records though, who are based in Amsterdam and put quite a few events on). You've also got the dub-step guys from Den Haag who play a lot in the city. The Berlin bunker-techno sound gets some air play too, especially in clubs like Trouw.

There's a big tech-house following in Amsterdam too, but I try to avoid that, its kind of cold and soulless music; big room sounds. Not my bag really, but you often hear it in the main rooms of the clubs in the city centre :uhoh:

LoveBass
02-15-2012, 05:55 PM
Thanks Mahatma. that was me who asked I recently got my Dutch citezenship so there are a lot of traveling and education options open to me. I love minimal so I was wondering what the scene was like. Thanks so much

propertrax
02-16-2012, 01:42 AM
I used to always bill myself as a "tech-house" person, but the general sound of what is usually referred to as tech-house is just soooo fucking boring and tired now. That seems to be where most of the generic fuckers go to permanently stay irrelevant. That and modern Beatport "minimal" haha.

Anyway...

Studio 1 aka Wolfgang Voigt... 1994-1996 I believe. To me, this stuff really blazed the trail for what is modern minimal...I think you'll agree:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfH32OqCFVo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXgdqhBIYP8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLFZg7_Q4gg

Hood (listen to the elements...not much... kick, hi hat, string sounds, wobbly filtered synth/bassline, and near the end another synth sound rolls in, could just be one of the others with some oddball delays/filters though...and you finally get some 909 snares, more hats, rides, and a cowbell that hits like 1 time) To me, this is extremely minimal, even if it is relatively more upbeat and jacking than what is often associated with the term


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diooKpNNtig

Classic deep Hood...again, count the elements. It's all about what he does with what he's got.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8PhL_u9Q5Y

One of Marcel Dettmann's best impressions of Hood, and my introduction to him years ago...I count 5 musical elements, only processed with FX and exceptionally arranged to create a great minimal track. Doesn't even bother with a mothafuckin' bassline, cuz sometimes that shit just gets in the way!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhNbnPCBGng

New Dettmann. Definitely more jacking and balls-to-the-wall...but minimal as fuck:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEuYX4ERdvg

DVS1 getting minimal...kick, watery synth, rides & hats, sub bass...and that's all folks!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnStoDHw7-c

To me, it's more about an approach that happens to result in a stark and "empty" vibe if that makes sense. It can be bangin' or jackin' or super melancholy and morose, or just summery dusty woodshed stuff.

This is also minimal, Jan Jelinik / Farben.... love this stuff. ultra chillout late night twisted vibes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkpaDpwdSUI

squeak2199
02-23-2012, 08:09 PM
modern Beatport "minimal" haha.

The majority of Beatport minimal = Loud kick drum, off-beat, trance-styled bass and a breakdown consisting of a movie sample/some other "wacky" noise.

Having said that, I do actually enjoy some of it:lol:

Mahatma Coat
02-24-2012, 05:43 AM
I'm quite into this guy's eps at the moment, pure tools, but good tools

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DVS1 is really bringing out the goods these days too, in fact every record I've heard from him has been worth buying.

Mahatma Coat
02-24-2012, 05:48 AM
Maybe this is more the sound a lot of people associate minimal with, but when its done well, i think it can be really beautiful and effective music:

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Mahatma Coat
02-24-2012, 05:50 AM
I'd call this sort of stuff mind of minial too, and nothing posted so far sounds like this kind if shit:

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This music just blows my mind. Its like outerspace on plastic.

m:cake
03-25-2012, 03:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rALmi8FgNGE

propertrax
03-26-2012, 07:05 PM
I'm quite into this guy's eps at the moment, pure tools, but good tools

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DVS1 is really bringing out the goods these days too, in fact every record I've heard from him has been worth buying.

Benny Rodrigues's ROD stuff has been solid. I like the Malmoks. Amazingly simple stuff that basically rely on filtering the hook, and progressively swapping 909 drums, until everything is going at once, and then pulled back out. Not much going on, but it's all in the arrangement. As you said, very good DJ tools.

And yes, DVS1 has been on-point since his first releases. Exceptional DJ, too.

disparate
04-07-2012, 06:43 AM
Does this count? Mmm, repetition and subtle changes...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI7ZjiM18Po

monomer
04-08-2012, 12:44 AM
^one of the few minimal tracks in my collection.

The rest are mostly all hood. I don't really care for the modern

LoveBass
04-12-2012, 10:14 PM
I shouted at my computer when this became out of stock on juno. Loudly

JamesRoss
06-01-2012, 08:40 PM
http://youtu.be/1b1Guk6Jwx4
http://youtu.be/2yQXi9KSkB8

JamesRoss
06-02-2012, 11:00 PM
http://youtu.be/N5B7rDwuLxc

JamesRoss
06-03-2012, 08:48 PM
http://youtu.be/my5ekCbwLos

http://youtu.be/Y5ETFTvKCGE

http://youtu.be/j5M24_zAIIk

http://youtu.be/z0w-7EfteK8

JamesRoss
06-03-2012, 09:01 PM
http://youtu.be/Vafe9c1FpIc

http://youtu.be/Y0fDE43SGtU

http://youtu.be/3MZXwkGGwVA

http://youtu.be/Sy72lwLSsy0

JamesRoss
06-15-2012, 09:25 PM
http://youtu.be/SDlmzIX8fQE

ilya
06-26-2012, 05:41 PM
super tracky afrorhythmic thing, only break i can really recognize in there is incredible bongo band - apache

Arcane Rhythm Structures Excavated And Remodelled By Hand - Szare/Geral

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQOiwWt1ZGE

http://hardwax.com/65203/szare/arcane-rhythm-structures-excavated-and-remodelled-by-hand/

AbstractQuality
06-27-2012, 02:25 PM
Arcane Rhythm Structures Excavated And Remodelled By Hand - Szare/Geral

That is just so, so sick. Frozen Border and Horizontal Ground put out some awesome stuff.

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lingk
06-27-2012, 03:06 PM
I'm surprised no one posted this... I guess it could be more tech house... maybe.


http://youtu.be/iCj_B1MHlfI

ilya
06-27-2012, 03:22 PM
I'm surprised no one posted this... I guess it could be more tech house... maybe.


http://youtu.be/iCj_B1MHlfI

pretty far from minimal techno to my ears. :school:

dope tracks as well abstract, haven't heard them before -- cheers!